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    its about to get ugly, how many of you guys remember the gas lines ?



    Biden Administration Expected to Reinstate Price Controls, Bringing Back 1970s Gas Lines, Experts Warn
    By Emel Akan June 6, 2022 Updated: June 7, 2022biggersmaller Print

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    Gas prices continue to rise, topping historic highs and there’s no imminent hope of relief in sight, according to sector analysts. The average price for a gallon of regular gasoline in the United States has now more than doubled since President Joe Biden took office.

    Congressional Democrats and the Biden administration assert that a solution may be found by cracking down on Big Oil’s “excessive or exploitative” price increases at the pump.

    Last month, House Democrats passed the Consumer Fuel Price Gouging Prevention Act, which empowers politicians and bureaucrats to bring civil action against gas companies who engage in “unconscionable pricing,” as defined by the bill.

    The legislation grants the president the power to declare an energy emergency for up to 30 days, with the option to extend the declaration.

    While the term “unconscionable pricing” could be difficult to pin down, the measure attempts to make it illegal to increase the price of gasoline in a predatory manner.

    “So essentially, what this bill would do is, for an unlimited duration, create a system where politicians and bureaucrats can decide what the appropriate level for prices are and fine people,” according to Jack Spencer, senior research fellow for energy and environmental policy at the Heritage Foundation.

    Spencer called the measure a recipe for “disaster” during a virtual panel discussion on June 1 hosted by the conservative think tank.

    Prices at the pump jumped to a national average of $4.87 per gallon on June 6, according to AAA. In certain parts of California, drivers pay more than $7 per gallon on average.

    Many economists of all political stripes are opposed to price controls as a means of curbing inflation. It would repeat mistakes that led to gas lines in the 1970s, they say.

    Former Treasury Secretary Larry Summers, during an interview with Bloomberg, called the price-gouging bill “dangerous nonsense.”

    Summers, who served under Presidents Bill Clinton and Barack Obama, accused Democrats of creating “diversionary confusion” and disregarding “real determinants of inflation,” which he said have to do with the inflated demand created by excessive stimulus measures.

    The bill was also met with opposition from the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, which dubbed it the “Bring Back 1970s Gas Lines Act.”

    Why Are Price Controls Contentious?
    After the onset of World War II, President Franklin D. Roosevelt established the Office of Price Administration (OPA) to regulate the pricing of critical goods and impose price controls. The effort, which was backed by famous economists of the time, aimed at curbing price spikes amid mounting wartime demand for critical commodities.

    Some believe that while price controls were effective in temporarily controlling inflation, they gave rise to black markets, rationing, and shortages. In 1947, the OPA was disbanded.

    Price controls, however, were reintroduced during the Korean War and the Nixon administration.

    In August 1971, President Richard Nixon ordered a 90-day freeze on prices and wages, which was a sudden and daring move. Inflation eased for a while but the price hikes from the 1973 Arab oil embargo made inflation worse.

    According to industry analyst Trilby Lundberg of the Lundberg Survey, which monitors prices at gas stations nationwide, there is “great danger” that something comparable to the 1970s controls may reappear in 2022.

    “When President Nixon instituted price controls in 1971, they were only supposed to last 90 days. Instead they lasted for nearly 10 years,” Lundberg wrote in a recent note to clients. “At the time, price controls were popular with the public which was getting clobbered by price inflation.”

    Like Nixon, Presidents Gerald Ford and Jimmy Carter maintained price controls on gas, although they were ineffective. Inflation, which was slightly above 4 percent in 1971, reached double digits.

    “When you have binding price controls, you get shortages. And the shortages manifested themselves as gas lines,” David Kreutzer, senior economist at the Institute for Energy Research remarked at the Heritage panel.

    There were stories of people waiting hours, which was not unusual, he added, “I waited in the line almost three hours one time.”

    Lundberg disproves the myth that the gasoline shortage in the 1970s was caused by the Arab oil embargo. Government rules such as “oil price ceilings, retail margin caps, and allocation schemes,” she highlighted, were the real causes of shortages and long lines at stations.

    The shortages lasted until President Ronald Reagan completely repealed price controls in 1981. Within five years, gas prices at the pump dropped by a third.

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    A driver unloads raw crude oil from his tanker to process into gas at Marathon Refinery on May 24, 2022 in Salt Lake City, Utah. (George Frey/Getty Images)
    Why Are Gas Prices Surging?
    The real cause of the high gas prices today, according to Kreutzer, is that the current oil supply cannot match the global demand that was disrupted during the pandemic. A part of the increase is also attributed to supply disruption caused by Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, he said.

    Since his inauguration, President Biden has taken nearly 90 actions, according to Kreutzer’s tally, that have interrupted the domestic supply, including cancellation of the XL pipeline and oil drilling leases, and imposing regulations that make it more expensive to refine petroleum.

    Spencer agreed, adding that the growing environmental, social, and governance (ESG) movement also has an impact on the sector. He said that the efforts to defund fossil fuels prevent the essential investments in the oil and gas sector to reduce energy prices.

    “We need to stop the war on energy,” Spencer said.

    Democrats, on the other hand, claim that fossil fuel executives intentionally keep supplies artificially low in order to juice profits, pointing to the oil sector sitting on over 9,000 granted but unused drilling permits. Biden and the Democrats have repeatedly blamed the oil industry for “price gouging.”

    However, oil industry groups have pushed back against the claims that oil companies are sitting on thousands of unused permits.

    “Wells and leases are not like faucets and spigots,” the American Petroleum Institute stated on its website in response.

    The group noted that it takes years for certain fields to move from discovery to production partly due to regulatory and legal hurdles, adding that thousands of leases are held up in court by environmental activists.

    Lundberg argues that blaming businesses for price gouging is the “first step toward price controls.”

    She says if Biden imposes controls, current “eye-popping pump prices would be joined by station outages, closures, and long lines of angry motorists.”

    Price controls, according to proponents, have been used in numerous industries throughout U.S. history. There are still price limits in several significant areas, including public utilities, rent, and healthcare.

    As governments grapple with the effects of COVID-19 and climate change, enacting selective price controls to protect consumers from price gouging would be a wise policy, the Roosevelt Institute, a liberal think tank recommends.

    However, economists disagree about whether price controls could solve America’s inflation problem. According to some, it is a prescription for economic catastrophe.

    Debate Grows
    In a report last year, the White House Council of Economic Advisers suggested that today’s inflation is best compared to the post-World War II period.

    “The period right after World War II potentially provides the most relevant case study, as the rapid post-war inflationary episode was caused by the elimination of price controls, supply shortages, and pent-up demand,” the report stated.

    Economist Isabella Weber published an opinion piece in the Guardian in late December in which she referred to this analogy made by the White House and advocated price controls as “a powerful weapon to fight inflation.”

    The article drew criticism from both conservative and liberal economists soon after it was published.

    Liberal economist and New York Times columnist Paul Krugman criticized the proposal, writing on Twitter in a since-deleted post: “I am not a free-market zealot. But this is truly stupid.”

    In January, the University of Chicago conducted a survey of the country’s leading economists to learn about their perspectives on price regulations.

    When asked whether price controls similar to those used in the 1970s might successfully lower U.S. inflation over the next 12 months, 65 percent responded they “disagree” or “strongly disagree.”

    In the survey, Harvard professor Oliver Hart said he agreed, but noted, “They could reduce inflation but the consequence would be shortages and rationing.”

    “Just stop. Seriously,” Austan Goolsbee, a professor at the University of Chicago and former adviser to President Barack Obama responded to the query.

    The survey also found that only 10 percent of economists believed that a key driver behind today’s higher inflation is big corporations in uncompetitive markets using their market dominance to raise prices to juice their profits.

    #2
    Oh yay!


    Biden does not want his presidency compared to Carter, and yet he keeps making the same mistakes as Carter…
    Last edited by Playa; 06-08-2022, 09:26 AM.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Playa View Post
      Oh yay!


      Biden does not want his presidency compared to Carter, and yet he keeps making the same mistakes as Carter…
      Carter could be the only one that is for real excited about a Biden presidency

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        #4
        I remember those days. Could only buy on Mon. Wed. and Fri. even if you could find a station that had gas.
        Sucked too because I had a Corvette then and it only held about 15 gallons. Back then they would not let you fill gas cans where I lived. Some places had a sales $$$ limit too.

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          #5
          Yep, I was there. Nixon started it and Carter detonated what iol supplies we had.

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            #6
            Highway speed limit 55

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              #7
              Oh go eat a steak, get laid, drink a beer, spend money and have fun.. Everything will be just fine..
              Nothing to be concerned about..

              But yea I am old enough to remember them... It was ugly..

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                #8
                Originally posted by ttaxidermy View Post
                Oh go eat a steak, get laid, drink a beer, spend money and have fun.. Everything will be just fine..
                Nothing to be concerned about..

                But yea I am old enough to remember them... It was ugly..
                I have to admit, I chucked at this. I see what you did. Lol

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Playa View Post
                  Oh yay!


                  Biden does not want his presidency compared to Carter, and yet he keeps making the same mistakes as Carter…
                  Pretty certain he is worse than Carter. It took a while for Carter to screw things up. Biden fast tracked his destruction of American values and the economy

                  Carter was not a bad person with ill will. He was just a terrible president.

                  Biden on the other hand.... rotten to the core.

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                    #10
                    A key Texas petroleum refinery that produces more than 200,000 barrels of fuel per day is facing a premature shutdown that could put pressure on fuel supplies.


                    This won't help. Appears they are looking for a reason to shutter the place even sooner.

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