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    #61
    I agree on some for sure, arming more cops and teachers won't do anything unless that person wants that responsibility. There was a small army at Uvalde right outside and they didn't have the stones to go in, so that isn't going to stop it. I am not talking about taking guns away from law abiding citizens obviously I am a 2nd amendment supporter. I understand though, that the country is not like it use to be, there are less responsible adults let alone children and it takes a very responsible person to handle a firearm successfully. As gun owners we need to be seen as responsible and looking for ways to help decrease these things from happening.

    I think this type of thing is a symptom of how bad our society is at the moment and I agree making it harder for law abiding citizens to own and obtain firearms won't solve anything. There is a mental health crisis in this country and easy to obtain weapons is making easier for these psychos to lash out because they are devalued and lonely from the wokeness you speak of. It's a hard problem to solve because morality is gone, church and community has long be left behind and you have a hard time legislating morality especially when you can't trust any politician on either side to have an honest opinion. A lack of trust in each other is another thing that is hurting our country, badly.

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      #62
      Originally posted by ram04 View Post
      I agree on some for sure, arming more cops and teachers won't do anything unless that person wants that responsibility. There was a small army at Uvalde right outside and they didn't have the stones to go in, so that isn't going to stop it. I am not talking about taking guns away from law abiding citizens obviously I am a 2nd amendment supporter. I understand though, that the country is not like it use to be, there are less responsible adults let alone children and it takes a very responsible person to handle a firearm successfully. As gun owners we need to be seen as responsible and looking for ways to help decrease these things from happening.

      I think this type of thing is a symptom of how bad our society is at the moment and I agree making it harder for law abiding citizens to own and obtain firearms won't solve anything. There is a mental health crisis in this country and easy to obtain weapons is making easier for these psychos to lash out because they are devalued and lonely from the wokeness you speak of. It's a hard problem to solve because morality is gone, church and community has long be left behind and you have a hard time legislating morality especially when you can't trust any politician on either side to have an honest opinion. A lack of trust in each other is another thing that is hurting our country, badly.
      If you are in a room(with your weapon) and some idiot comes charging in, what you gonna do? Wait for the police or try to take that idiot out?

      Quite a bit of difference between being one of the attacked with means of defense and being on the OUTSIDE wondering what is going on and what to do about it.

      And I am quite positive that being one of the armed will be completely voluntary.

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        #63
        have you heard of California's newest law: minorities that threaten officials or people can't be reported.
        That'll really help.

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          #64
          Originally posted by hpdrifter View Post
          have you heard of California's newest law: minorities that threaten officials or people can't be reported.
          That'll really help.
          lol ***

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            #65
            Originally posted by ram04 View Post
            What's the plan to fix mental illness in this country? How are you going to get Dads to be Dads? What do you want to do with these sick kids, because it's only going to get worse.
            There's no fairy tale, pie in the sky, easy solution. Make people accountable for their actions. Let people that make bad decisions go hungry and suffer.

            Think about the past pretty much anywhere on Earth. That's how people learn.

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              #66
              I agree

              Originally posted by acopperdawg View Post
              I am going to play devils advocate here with regards to these red flags. Say you have a hyper sensitive Admin........someone that thinks that pointing your fingers at someone with your hand shaped like a gun is a terroristic threat and now your 12 year old son is flagged and cannot purchase a deer gun when he turns 18? You tell me where those lines start and stop.
              Or your ex wife decides to screw you again and reports you to LE that you “threatened” her during your last child visitation

              Or someone at work is po’ed at you and says you threatened them

              Or your next door neighbor is mad for whatever reason…….

              Red Flag Laws are fine in theory but SUCK in reality

              INFORCE THE LAWS ALREADY ON THE BOOKS!!!

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                #67
                Shane for President!!

                Originally posted by Shane View Post
                I posted this on the other thread last week. We can't make all the problems go away. We can do some things to deal with them more effectively. And we can do some things to strengthen families over time. Even if the latter doesn't happen, we can and should do the other things to protect the vulnerable better and deal with the mentally ill more effectively.

                The fact that there is no silver bullet that would make all the problems go away is no reason to start catering to the emotional and irrational nonsense that the left always wants to jump to.
                I will donate to your campaign!

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Tejas Wildlife View Post
                  I will donate to your campaign!
                  Me too!!

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Tejas Wildlife View Post
                    Or your ex wife decides to screw you again and reports you to LE that you “threatened” her during your last child visitation

                    Or someone at work is po’ed at you and says you threatened them

                    Or your next door neighbor is mad for whatever reason…….

                    Red Flag Laws are fine in theory but SUCK in reality

                    INFORCE THE LAWS ALREADY ON THE BOOKS!!!
                    it's getting, or would get, so you'd have to have a 24/7 voice recorder.

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                      #70
                      Wow... And being reported by huffpo of all places.

                      Cody Briseno said he went after the Robb Elementary School shooter after seeing the gunman crash his truck outside, but police told him to stay back and shut up.

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                        #71
                        Originally posted by Let's go Brandon! View Post
                        Wow... And being reported by huffpo of all places.

                        https://www.huffpost.com/entry/funer...b07aa9389b196c
                        They love anything that fans the flames. Reality has no bearing.

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                          #72
                          Originally posted by Tejas Wildlife View Post
                          Or your ex wife decides to screw you again and reports you to LE that you “threatened” her during your last child visitation

                          Or someone at work is po’ed at you and says you threatened them

                          Or your next door neighbor is mad for whatever reason…….

                          Red Flag Laws are fine in theory but SUCK in reality

                          INFORCE THE LAWS ALREADY ON THE BOOKS!!!

                          Our govt already considers us white supremecist. You disagree with them or criticize them you get flagged.

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