Lubbock Shooting Kyle Carrouth

[Double C]

I guess the original thread got axed? Anyways looks like grand jury said no charges on Carrouth.

https://www.kcbd.com/2022/04/01/homicide-chad-read-goes-before-lubbock-co-grand-jury-sources-say-no-charges-will-be-filed/

[flywise]

Whole lot Of stupid in that deal.

[cehorn]

I didn't see it originally but I read thru the other thread. It seems like most on that thread were saying he should have been prosecuted. I'm sure I'm missing something but from what I have pieced toghether:

• Incident occurred at shooters house
• Shooter told "victim" to leave and got a gun to enforce the request
• "Victim" continued to confront shooter, didn't leave and tried to take weapon from shooter
• When "victim" tried to take weapon from shooter, on shooter's property, shooter pulled trigger

If these statements are false I will change my stance but if they are true I see it as a justified shooting. Could it have been handled with fists or a call to the police? Sure. But from the snippet I have seen, in my opinion all of that goes out the window the second the "victim" tried to take the gun and after that the shooting is justified. Where am I wrong? And I'm sorry, if it is on my property the "victim", courts or anyone with a keyboard don't get to tell me how to handle things on my property. If I'm at my home and don't want to throw hands and choose to bring out a gun to get a trespasser to leave that is the end of the story. Again, I'm sure it is a lot more complicated than I'm making it out to be but I would love to hear the rest of the story.

[Man]

Kyle was my coworker for a couple years. He was a nice dude. Wealthy family very tied into the political system here in Texas. Sad to see him in this situation.

[Pedernal]

I didn't see it originally but I read thru the other thread. It seems like most on that thread were saying he should have been prosecuted. I'm sure I'm missing something but from what I have pieced toghether:

• Incident occurred at shooters house
• Shooter told "victim" to leave and got a gun to enforce the request
• "Victim" continued to confront shooter, didn't leave and tried to take weapon from shooter
  
• When "victim" tried to take weapon from shooter, on shooter's property, shooter pulled trigger

If these statements are false I will change my stance but if they are true I see it as a justified shooting. Could it have been handled with fists or a call to the police? Sure. But from the snippet I have seen, in my opinion all of that goes out the window the second the "victim" tried to take the gun and after that the shooting is justified. Where am I wrong? And I'm sorry, if it is on my property the "victim", courts or anyone with a keyboard don't get to tell me how to handle things on my property. If I'm at my home and don't want to throw hands and choose to bring out a gun to get a trespasser to leave that is the end of the story. Again, I'm sure it is a lot more complicated than I'm making it out to be but I would love to hear the rest of the story.

This is what really clouds the decision. I am not sure if the shooter fired of a warning shot before or after the struggle and prior to shooting the man.

Personally, if I am on someone’s property discussing/arguing an issue and the person comes out with a rifle telling me to leave, I am leaving.

Having stated the above, the shooting was senseless and should have never happened. It’s typical of the new society we have created.

[Hooverfb]

By the letter of the law I understand the ruling. The dad that was shot acted on emotion at the wrong time and wrong place. Sad deal for the kids. Shooter should have never brought the gun out when the dad came for his legally binding time to get his kids. That part is definitely going to be civil suits out the wazoo. The mom dating shooter should lose custody.

[lanceodom]

In my opinion, the shooter should not have ever brought the gun out. So many other ways to handle that situation.

[Double C]

When someone’s kids involved, emotion overrules judgement often. Insane how fast that all escalated .

If not mistaken, since it was a grand jury, proceedings are sealed so will never know.

[bloodtrailer28]

Shooter is a little ***** and should have been behind bars. Shooting an unarmed man that came to get his kids....Chicken ****.

[Playa]

Shooter is a little ***** and should have been behind bars. Shooting an unarmed man that came to get his kids....Chicken ****.

So the grand jury got it wrong?

All I’m saying is I suspect the snippet of video is only part of the evidence. I get the sense that there were other threats made or perceived previously either verbal or other forms that helped substantiate the case

[bloodtrailer28]

So the grand jury got it wrong?

All I’m saying is I suspect the snippet of video is only part of the evidence. I get the sense that there were other threats made or perceived previously either verbal or other forms that helped substantiate the case

Imo you don't shoot an unarmed man that came to pick up his kids. If you can't handle a simple little altercation without pulling a gun and killing an unarmed man...not sure what to tell you. Law or not that's murder in my book. To many "men" these days are scared to give a punch take a punch or take a little *** whipping. Its ridiculous.

The chicken **** should have been a little more understanding about him being ****** his kids weren't were they should have been and stayed the he'll out of it. Definitely shouldn't have ever walked inside and brought out a gun. All that was happening was a verbal dispute.

[Playa]

Imo you don't shoot an unarmed man that came to pick up his kids. If you can't handle a simple little altercation without pulling a gun and killing an unarmed man...not sure what to tell you. Law or not that's murder in my book. To many "men" these days are scared to give a punch take a punch or take a little *** whipping. Its ridiculous.

The chicken **** should have been a little more understanding about him being ****** his kids weren't were they should have been and stayed the he'll out of it. Definitely shouldn't have ever walked inside and brought out a gun. All that was happening was a verbal dispute.

Fair point and I can get on board with that, but the case at hand is t whether he is a poosie, it’s whether he committed murder according to the law.

Totally agree it didn’t have to escalate to that. The man who was shot also could have left, called authorities and asked for assistance. I also agree that less trouble would occur if more men could handle themselves

But if you are on my property and I ask you to leave, and you choose not to, you should fully expect a firearm will be the next step, at which point I’m not asking anymore

[bloodtrailer28]

Fair point and I can get on board with that, but the case at hand is t whether he is a poosie, it’s whether he committed murder according to the law.

Totally agree it didn’t have to escalate to that. The man who was shot also could have left, called authorities and asked for assistance. I also agree that less trouble would occur if more men could handle themselves

But if you are on my property and I ask you to leave, and you choose not to, you should fully expect a firearm will be the next step, at which point I’m not asking anymore

Way to many willing to go straight for a weapon these days. What happened to the good old days of throwing a few punches getting it out of your system and both people going on to live their life?

Like I said law be ****ed. He murdered a unarmed man for coming to pick up his children. Both of them handled it wrong but the shooter is a pos. He was more than willing to walk in and grab a gun when it never should have happened.

[PlanoDano]

He has lectured on 2A so he knew just what to say and do to complete a legal killing. They knew not having the kid there would send the father over the edge. Now kids are probably living with their fathers murderer. Everything changes with time and I do not want to write what I am thinking.

[Playa]

He has lectured on 2A so he knew just what to say and do to complete a legal killing. They knew not having the kid there would send the father over the edge. Now kids are probably living with their fathers murderer. Everything changes with time and I do not want to write what I am thinking.

The kids are not around him. His wife divorced him after the incident.

But she is from Lamesa and every chick I ever met from there was bat chit crazy….