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    At what point?

    When do people just say no?

    I understand we all have different degrees to which we will comply. For instance in the beginning of covid lots of data was wishy washy and people thought maybe the vaccine was good (or better than it proved to be)..So when told to get the shot some got it.
    Some said they wanted to travel (hunt, see family etc) so they got the jab.
    Some were bribed with money to get the jab.

    But things progressed on to where people were threatened with losing their job and most got the jab.

    Now, straight in the face communism I still don't see many people saying no. Just go with the flow once they stand to lose something.

    At what point do people, knowing it's BS, just say no? Ever?

    I know a few here in PACE are steadfast BTW

    #2
    I told my boss last week I will not get a shot. Don't plan on it, and already have a new position lined up if necessary that doesn't require it.

    Considering airlines just started pushing to get rid of masks (I am fairly certain they can just stop any time, but I digress), this Covid stuff is slowly going away, and for the most part here in Texas is gone.
    Last edited by WItoTX; 12-16-2021, 10:18 AM. Reason: .

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      #3
      If you haven't said no by now, you probably won't.
      America is a weak azz society mentally, they don't even care, or have a desire to know the truth.
      We say SHEEP for a reason, mainly because they are essentially braindead

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        #4
        I got to that point in March 2020. Still waiting on the stragglers.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Shane View Post
          I got to that point in March 2020. Still waiting on the stragglers.
          Back in the good ol days just pre-covid when I was all ticked off... And TBH got mad at me for saying what was coming LOL

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            #6
            Originally posted by RiverRat1 View Post
            Back in the good ol days just pre-covid when I was all ticked off... And TBH got mad at me for saying what was coming LOL
            Yep. If people hadn't panicked so much, we wouldn't have gotten sucked into the mess so badly. Fear and panic on the front end made it all possible though. It's been sad to watch

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              #7
              Originally posted by Shane View Post
              Yep. If people hadn't panicked so much, we wouldn't have gotten sucked into the mess so badly. Fear and panic on the front end made it all possible though. It's been sad to watch

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              Lot's of folks wanted an excuse to take a month off too. Remember all the "to binge" shows (Tiger King was released at the start) that came out?

              If it were a real pandemic, liquor stores would have closed.

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                #8
                [QUOTE=WItoTX;15996034

                If it were a real pandemic, liquor stores would have closed.[/QUOTE]

                And Walmart.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by rtp View Post
                  And Walmart.
                  I think Walmart might have a better argument than the big box hardware stores. At least they sell grocery

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by WItoTX View Post
                    Lot's of folks wanted an excuse to take a month off too. Remember all the "to binge" shows (Tiger King was released at the start) that came out?

                    If it were a real pandemic, liquor stores would have closed.

                    Shut your mouth, sir! Talk like that will get you banned…


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                      #11
                      I have said no since the beginning. I refused to wear a mask at work and I will not get the jab. Im afraid that taking the jab would be the same as committing suicide for me.

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                          #13
                          I asked my boss today , who got the booster last week and missed three days of work because it knocked him on his azz , why are you putting yourself through this?

                          At first I could understand why some people would get it but at this point with all the boosters it does not take a genius to know that it’s all experimental, they have no idea what the effects will be on the body and the people getting the shot are literally walking science projects.
                          I asked my boss how many shots before you get tired of being a pin cushion


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                            #14
                            Sorry to all the folks that took the j&J

                            Do they get a refund??




                            Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 Vaccine Not ‘Preferred’ Due to Link to Severe Condition: CDC Advisers
                            By Zachary Stieber
                            December 16, 2021 Updated: December 16, 2021
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                            A panel of advisers to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) unanimously voted on Thursday to recommend the agency tell the public that the Moderna and Pfizer COVID-19 vaccines are preferred to the jab from Johnson & Johnson (J&J).

                            “mRNA COVID-19 vaccines are preferred over the Janssen COVID-19 vaccine for the prevention of COVID-19 for all ≥ 18 years of age,” the recommendation states.

                            Pfizer and Moderna are both based on messenger RNA, or mRNA, technology.

                            Janssen is a subsidiary of J&J.

                            COVID-19 is the disease caused by the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus.


                            The CDC’s director will consider whether to adopt the recommendation from the advisory panel, the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices.

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                            The panel voted after hearing presentations on a serious combination of blood clotting and low blood platelet levels that has been seen at higher than background rates in people who have gotten the J&J vaccine.

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                            The link prompted a near-nationwide pause in administration of the vaccine in April but health agencies lifted the pause after determining the benefits of the shot outweighed its risks.

                            Since then, though, the number of confirmed cases of post-vaccination thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome (TTS) has climbed, particularly in middle-aged women, CDC experts told members.

                            Data from the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System shows the highest rate, one case per 100,000 doses administered, among women aged 30 to 49.

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                            Vials and syringes of the Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine are seen in Culver City, Calif., on Aug. 5, 2021. (Patrick T. Fallon/AFP via Getty Images)
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                            About 17 million doses of J&J’s shot have been administered in the country as of Thursday.

                            Of 54 confirmed cases through Aug. 31 in the United States following administration of the J&J shot, 26 were in women younger than 50, according to the CDC presentations.

                            Over half of the patients experienced a type of blood clot called cerebral venous sinus thrombosis (CVST).

                            Nine people have died with TTS after getting the single-shot vaccine, the CDC said, with seven also having CVST.

                            Though the CDC and FDA both still say the J&J shot’s benefits still outweigh the risks, the high mortality rate and the fact that Americans can get two other COVID-19 vaccines led to panel members issuing a preference for the Moderna and Pfizer shots.

                            “I just cannot recommend a vaccine that is associated with a condition that may lead to death. I think we have other vaccines,” Dr. Pablo Sanchez, professor of pediatrics at the Ohio State University-Nationwide Children’s Hospital, and a panel member, said during the meeting.

                            Some members said they only thought people with contraindications to the mRNA-based vaccines should get a J&J vaccine moving forward. CDC officials said their recommendations would be incorporated into updated clinical guidance for healthcare workers who administer vaccines.

                            U.S. drug regulators earlier this week listed TTS as a contraindication for the J&J shot.

                            A contraindication is a term that means certain people should not use a product, in this case a vaccine.

                            The only contraindication to the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines at present is severe allergic reaction, though post-vaccination heart inflammation has occurred at higher-than-expected rates in people after getting those vaccines, particularly after the second shot of the two-dose primary regimen. People under 40 are actually at higher risk of getting myocarditis, one form of heart inflammation, from Moderna’s vaccine than COVID-19 itself, a recent study found.

                            Dr. Lynn Bahta, another panel member who works for the Minnesota Department of Health, said the panel is treating TTS differently than heart inflammation because of the difference in mortality rate.

                            “We do see a higher frequency of myocarditis” but the severity of TTS is “a driving factor for this recommendation,” she said.


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                              #15
                              Originally posted by OldRiverRat View Post
                              I asked my boss today , who got the booster last week and missed three days of work because it knocked him on his azz , why are you putting yourself through this?

                              At first I could understand why some people would get it but at this point with all the boosters it does not take a genius to know that it’s all experimental, they have no idea what the effects will be on the body and the people getting the shot are literally walking science projects.
                              I asked my boss how many shots before you get tired of being a pin cushion


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                              What was his response?

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