So y’all are not gonna talk about this?

[iamntxhunter]

Lets try one a little more risky lol and off topic from the rest of the thread. Do you think big corporations and banks should be bailed out by taxpayers when they had stock by-backs and cashed in on billions of dollars in bonuses, then when **** hits the fan don't have the liquidity to keep themselves afloat?

What is your understanding of how these banks got in this position to begin with?

[ram04]

Anything legalizing marijuana for medical use or recreational I’m in complete favor of. The left and libertarians have led the charge on getting troops home since I can remember. Either of those two off the top of my head you in favor of? Now the handling of the exit is a disgrace and any rational leftwing or rightwing person should be disgusted by that fiasco.

[ram04]

What is your understanding of how these banks got in this position to begin with?

Banks gave loans to people who had no business getting them, upgraded these loans to look like good investment leveraged themselves up on a nonexistent foundation made billions off these loans, reinvested back into stocks roping in millions of unsuspecting working people then the bubble popped they got bailed out with taxpayer money and the working man got screwed. That bailout was bipartisan including all of your so-called conservatives.

[rolylane6]

Anything legalizing marijuana for medical use or recreational I’m in complete favor of. The left and libertarians have led the charge on getting troops home since I can remember. Either of those two off the top of my head you in favor of? Now the handling of the exit is a disgrace and any rational leftwing or rightwing person should be disgusted by that fiasco.

The left was never in favor of getting troops home. They were in favor of doing whatever seemed opposite of what the right was doing. If war was necessary, the left would say it wasn't. If it wasnt necessary they would say it was. Trump was good for this country. The left made every decision and move based on the exact opposite of whateverTrump was doing at the time. They were/are filled with hate, period.

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[ram04]

The left was never in favor of getting troops home. They were in favor of doing whatever seemed opposite of what the right was doing. If war was necessary, the left would say it wasn't. If it wasnt necessary they would say it was. Trump was good for this country. The left made every decision and move based on the exact opposite of whateverTrump was doing at the time. They were/are filled with hate, period.

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True liberals and libertarians have always been for bringing troops home. It seems you might be looking at only Nancy pelosi and others that are apart of those WWE type characters we have already dismissed as grifters. Basically elite politicians on either side will vote for anything the special interest want, including pelosi, Mconnell etc. which included getting rid of Trump. Trump was the pinnacle of WWE candidate, he literally said anything he thought people wanted to hear. He had some good things for America like highlighting the bias in media for sure, I just never trusted the guy because it seemed he wasn’t a leader he only liked the spotlight.

I will agree, the far left has pushed classic liberals as well as guys like me towards the center right, but socially the right sometimes pushes me back left lol.

[rolylane6]

True liberals and libertarians have always been for bringing troops home. It seems you might be looking at only Nancy pelosi and others that are apart of those WWE type characters we have already dismissed as grifters. Basically elite politicians on either side will vote for anything the special interest want, including pelosi, Mconnell etc. which included getting rid of Trump. Trump was the pinnacle of WWE candidate, he literally said anything he thought people wanted to hear. He had some good things for America like highlighting the bias in media for sure, I just never trusted the guy because it seemed he wasn’t a leader he only liked the spotlight.



I will agree, the far left has pushed classic liberals as well as guys like me towards the center right, but socially the right sometimes pushes me back left lol.

You keep talking about true liberal/libertarians. They have zero influence on our country's future. They hold no public offices. I'm talking about the left that's holding political offices and making policies that destroy our freedoms. Those are democrats and they have zero to offer this country that doesn't destroy its very foundation. Every single Democrat that I know that voted for those idiots, still stand their ground and say their vote was the right one. They have, and as far as I can tell will, never admit any of Bidens faults. When he's wearing a Hitler mustache and quoting Mein Kampf, they will still say he's a good guy and everything he does is perfect for our country.

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[justletmein]

You keep talking about true liberal/libertarians. They have zero influence on our country's future. They hold no public offices. I'm talking about the left that's holding political offices and making policies that destroy our freedoms. Those are democrats and they have zero to offer this country that doesn't destroy its very foundation. Every single Democrat that I know that voted for those idiots, still stand their ground and say their vote was the right one. They have, and as far as I can tell will, never admit any of Bidens faults. When he's wearing a Hitler mustache and quoting Mein Kampf, they will still say he's a good guy and everything he does is perfect for our country.

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Yep. Social media age, they'll do anything to never admit they were wrong.

[PVDT]

There is so much incompetence in this administration, we simply can’t cover them all.

Isn’t that the truth.

[ram04]

You keep talking about true liberal/libertarians. They have zero influence on our country's future. They hold no public offices. I'm talking about the left that's holding political offices and making policies that destroy our freedoms. Those are democrats and they have zero to offer this country that doesn't destroy its very foundation. Every single Democrat that I know that voted for those idiots, still stand their ground and say their vote was the right one. They have, and as far as I can tell will, never admit any of Bidens faults. When he's wearing a Hitler mustache and quoting Mein Kampf, they will still say he's a good guy and everything he does is perfect for our country.

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I’ll admit I was arguing broadly speaking not very specific. You are 100% correct on the left wing in office that are swaying votes, they have lost their minds. I was more speaking towards normal Americans finding common ground, the people you talk about have ZERO Amecians best interest at heart.
P.s. I always forget to tell you but that buck in your avatar is an absolute giant.

[rolylane6]

I’ll admit I was arguing broadly speaking not very specific. You are 100% correct on the left wing in office that are swaying votes, they have lost their minds. I was more speaking towards normal Americans finding common ground, the people you talk about have ZERO Amecians best interest at heart.

P.s. I always forget to tell you but that buck in your avatar is an absolute giant.

Thanks, I was very fortunate on that one. He did all the work, I just had to make a good shot....while shaking like a leaf!

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[Ætheling]

OP. You came here to troll. You got ran off, came back muuuuuuuuch later, gave concessions and apologies and ended up trolling the exact way you intended in the first place. You are a troll though and may want to give some psychological consideration to what that means for your ego and overall character but god **** my hat is off to you. You are a professional. What a ruse, I mean what a ruse. Bravo sir!

[ram04]

Lol I didn’t get run off partner, I got on to other things and came back and noticed I had some bites lol. I honestly don’t mean hard feelings I just like paying devil’s advocate just to try and flush out other perspectives. It’s easy to make fun of the left, they are window lickers for the most part, at least Pelosi and her crew is. But I still hold some classical liberal views and think some would agree to those views is all or at least hope some would.

[Death from Above]

What classical liberal views do you hold?

[ram04]

Legalize marijuana (most all drugs and regulate would be best). Freedom of speech. No nation building. If gay people want to get married more power to them. Separation of church and state. Just to name a couple.

[iamntxhunter]

Legalize marijuana (most all drugs and regulate would be best). Freedom of speech. No nation building. If gay people want to get married more power to them. Separation of church and state. Just to name a couple.

Care to expand on separation of church and state? Can't wait to hear this.
Why do certain groups want to get married (religious ceremony) rather than a union if they are granted the same privileges?
So you think it would be good to legalize drugs so there are no repercussions for any drug use regardless of age or if you are at school or in a theatre or grocery store?
Just at home, right?