interesting turn of events

[Ætheling]

Honestly term limits won’t fix the issue. Term limited politicians would then just leave the public sector to work in the private as “consultants” aka lobbyist, and they would simply be used to groom the fresh new Congress for funding projects. We would also have a much larger financial nut to deal with in terms of congressional pensions and benefits as we would have a gluttony of ex-congress members.

The only way it works is a law requiring no former member of working for a Corp with government contracts. And a change in congressional retirement plans

PACs and lobbyists need to go as well. You misspelled organized crime by the way. That is exactly where these people would go in the private sector.

[Hogmauler]

I thought we had term limits? It’s called voting. Apparently there was no better candidate or they were awol during the primary. Most folks try to elect the least crooked person that’s running. I think a lot of these repubs are guilty of omissions rather than commissions.

[LWC]

If term limits are good enough for President, why not Congress? We do it for pres to limit their power. What is the argument for the ability to have lifetime politicians in Congress?

[DRT]

I agree.

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[Playa]

If term limits are good enough for President, why not Congress? We do it for pres to limit their power. What is the argument for the ability to have lifetime politicians in Congress?

Because the founding fathers were leery of a single “head” ruling for too long and becoming a king. They were fairly confident that citizens would find new representatives if the ones in office were self serving. They underestimated our unwillingness to make positive changes

[DRT]

I thought we had term limits? It’s called voting. Apparently there was no better candidate or they were awol during the primary. Most folks try to elect the least crooked person that’s running. I think a lot of these repubs are guilty of omissions rather than commissions.

That's not even close to true. There other quality and qualified candidates out there but an entrenched incumbent has so much money behind them there is no real chance for them to get the "party" nod.
They aren't given any real chance by the media either.
Every one of the entrenched trash in DC is there because they are bought and paid for. And too many of them have ignorant people voting for them not even close to aware of how they are getting rich off of special interest groups.
Set in term limits and you have people always going in who haven't lost touch with their communities, reality and the needs of their constituents. They don't get to the point where they think they are above the law and don't answer to the people. They don't forget the constitutional commitments they made in their oath of office.

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[OldRiverRat]

That's not even close to true. There other quality and qualified candidates out there but an entrenched incumbent has so much money behind them there is no real chance for them to get the "party" nod.
They aren't given any real chance by the media either.
Every one of the entrenched trash in DC is there because they are bought and paid for. And too many of them have ignorant people voting for them not even close to aware of how they are getting rich off of special interest groups.
Set in term limits and you have people always going in who haven't lost touch with their communities, reality and the needs of their constituents. They don't get to the point where they think they are above the law and don't answer to the people. They don't forget the constitutional commitments they made in their oath of office.

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This street runs two ways! What about when you get a rep that is good and does his job? People have become too apathetic and that’s why we get bad reps. Is money an issue? Yes but remember when Ted Cruz ran and won, no one really thought he could win but he ran a good campaign and pulled it off. If a candidate has a clear message that resonates with people and they work hard then they have a shot. Too many times seats are just conceded because there are no candidates.

The good guys are too busy with their heads down raising their families, working hard, maybe volunteering their time to coach a youth sport and or teach a Sunday school class to get involved. The attitude that “it will all work out” is what abs gotten us to this point.


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[SabineHunter]

That's not even close to true. There other quality and qualified candidates out there but an entrenched incumbent has so much money behind them there is no real chance for them to get the "party" nod.
They aren't given any real chance by the media either.
Every one of the entrenched trash in DC is there because they are bought and paid for. And too many of them have ignorant people voting for them not even close to aware of how they are getting rich off of special interest groups.
Set in term limits and you have people always going in who haven't lost touch with their communities, reality and the needs of their constituents. They don't get to the point where they think they are above the law and don't answer to the people. They don't forget the constitutional commitments they made in their oath of office.

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Cruz was an underdog and AOC shocked the dems. Wrong again.

[DRT]

You can't compare AOC. She was elected by an area that is as fringe as she is. She doesn't represent anything close to mainstream.
And Cruz did not win against an incumbent. He won an open seat. Not even close to the same thing.

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[etbowhunter]

If term limits are good enough for President, why not Congress? We do it for pres to limit their power. What is the argument for the ability to have lifetime politicians in Congress?

Actually, there were no term limits for any office in the Constitution. The presidential term limits didn't come to pass until 1951 in response to FDR holding office for about 13 or 14 years.

In the original Articles of Confederation, there were rotational term limits but for some reason they were abandoned in the Constitution.