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    sellouts! all of them ... 183 between central to north east mall .. less than 5 mile stretch ... $1.99 for the express lane ... yeah at midnight maybe ..but as soon as traffic hits during rush hour... $17.25 ! traffic is terrible .. and there are limited entrances and exits ... they built them for one reason and one reason only .. gouge people ... what happened to our tax $ going to roads ... aren't we already paying for all this ??? another $8.25 to make it to mark 4 parkway...

    that's $25.50 for about 8 miles ... and at the end of that express lane ... traffic jam for 20 minutes anyway ...

    got caught in it for the last time ... never paying that again! it used to be $4 and i thought that was high ... this last time , it was too late to exit ...
    going a different route from now one ...
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    #2
    Man, I grew up right there off forest ridge. Traffic was never THAT bad but that was 25 years ago. Mom and dad still live by the walmart behind you in that picture. They say the traffic SUCKS these days.

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      #3
      thats just insane!

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        #4
        That's obscene!

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          #5
          pure highway robbery ... but they seem to get away with it ...

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            #6
            You would be well served to type "dynamic pricing" and/or "congestion pricing" into your search browser.

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              #7
              You can thank Rick Perry and the early 2000’s legislature for this great idea. Public private partnership highways. Great idea right, having a private company finance highway construction and then recoup their investment through tolls. Except that those private companies’ main motivation is profit and they have no motivation to actually improve the roads to ease congestion. It is actually in there best interest to make traffic worse so that more people use the toll lanes and they can increase the toll rates. At least for publicly owned toll roads the tolls you pay go back to the state, and will hopefully be used to maintain and improve infrastructure. I believe the parent company for this toll road is French, so the profits don’t even stay in the US. Terrible, short-sited idea.

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                #8
                Originally posted by simek View Post
                You would be well served to type "dynamic pricing" and/or "congestion pricing" into your search browser.
                that's not the point ...

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by mwk128 View Post
                  You can thank Rick Perry and the early 2000’s legislature for this great idea. Public private partnership highways. Great idea right, having a private company finance highway construction and then recoup their investment through tolls. Except that those private companies’ main motivation is profit and they have no motivation to actually improve the roads to ease congestion. It is actually in there best interest to make traffic worse so that more people use the toll lanes and they can increase the toll rates. At least for publicly owned toll roads the tolls you pay go back to the state, and will hopefully be used to maintain and improve infrastructure. I believe the parent company for this toll road is French, so the profits don’t even stay in the US. Terrible, short-sited idea.
                  The company that owns the 130 toll between SA and Austin hasn't made a penny since it opened. In fact, it's gone bankrupt more than once, and it's leading to pretty significant failure in the road surface, bridge abutments, and embankments.

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                    #10
                    seems like Texas has some of the highest toll rates in the country; excluding N.Y.

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                      #11
                      If I had to travel that road I’d have a license plate blocker on my ride.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by WItoTX View Post
                        The company that owns the 130 toll between SA and Austin hasn't made a penny since it opened. In fact, it's gone bankrupt more than once, and it's leading to pretty significant failure in the road surface, bridge abutments, and embankments.

                        What’s the name of the company?

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                          #13
                          so what happened to their business plan? there is more than a lot of traffic on that road.

                          if I remember right the owners were from oversees; right ?

                          if they haven't made any profit it isn't from lack of participation on their road, it's because their home country has taxed the **** out of them.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by M16 View Post
                            If I had to travel that road I’d have a license plate blocker on my ride.
                            You wouldn't need one. It's built in(the bumper in front of you)

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