We are so screwed

[OldRiverRat]

The atf is about to have absolute power so this will all escalate very quickly

https://youtu.be/7Nb0Bt8U_Hc

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[Hogmauler]

Sad state of affairs. Actually it’s disgusting.

[Artos]

I've seen numerous threads here on tbh over the years about good local gun shops closing & don't recall any concern about the 4473's being turned in...is this not common knowledge??


I changed my FFL from a DBA to a LLC and the IA initially requested the old 4473's but reconsidered due to name change only...some day I'll surrender my FFL & go through the same as will every FFL.

[IkemanTX]

Don’t they already have the background records from the initial purchase?

[Landrover]

Don’t they already have the background records from the initial purchase?

Yessir!
I guess this is a way to double check and have a backup file of who bought a gun from Walmart. It is sensible that they don't want to be responsible for the records so dumping them on the ATF is a easy out for Wally World folks. Turning them over to another FFL would delay the inevitable sausage making process but as you noted they already have any info they need to trace weapons bought from a licensed dealer. I did subscribe to the guys channel as he was pretty logical and forthright in his presentation style..........i can do without the RAMBO types that keep their hair on fire 24/7!

[Reaper]

I assume D i c k 's did the same thing when they quit supporting sportsmen

[stickerpatch59]

Don’t they already have the background records from the initial purchase?

Hell yeah they do!

anything you have bought online (30 rnd mags) is recorded somewhere and it's not that hard to find.

[Mike D]

Don’t they already have the background records from the initial purchase?

As I understand it sorta. When the NICS is performed they are given name, SS# and either handgun, long gun or other. No information about the gun is relayed at that time.


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[Artos]

As I understand it sorta. When the NICS is performed they are given name, SS# and either handgun, long gun or other. No information about the gun is relayed at that time.


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SS# is optional on the 4473 but we are now required to give your DL#...

[stickerpatch59]

SS# is optional on the 4473 but we are now required to give your DL#...

so they actually don't know what weapon that you purchased except for long gun or pistol?

[Radar]

SS# is optional on the 4473 but we are now required to give your DL#...

Paul, in your county does the Sheriff require you to notify their department if more than one firearm is purchased by the same individual at the same time?

[meltingfeather]

How does the golden boy let this happen on his watch?

Thanks for posting and keeping an eye on this...

[Charles]

They already know what most people own. All they have to do is scan social media and take notes of people posting "look at what I got".

[Samson]

Paul, in your county does the Sheriff require you to notify their department if more than one firearm is purchased by the same individual at the same time?

This is not a local law, but an ATF rule. If you buy more than 1 handgun during a 5 consecutive day period, then the dealer is required to fill out a form 3310.4 . Copies of that form are required to be sent to the ATF, your local law enforcement agency where the sale occurs, and one copy is kept with the 4473. There is no requirement for rifles or shotguns.

There is a multiple sales form for certain rifles ( AR, AK, any semiautomatic rifle that accepts detached mags) that must be filled out and filed with the ATF, but only for certain states that border Mexico. This was a Fast n Furious legacy rule and is set to expire Jan 31 2021.

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[Mike D]

How does the golden boy let this happen on his watch?

Thanks for posting and keeping an eye on this...

I think even ardent Trump supporters know Trump hasn’t been great in regards to protecting 2A rights.

The same could be said for many so called 2nd amendment/gun rights supporters here on TBH as well.


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