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Originally posted by Olphart View PostDude, do some research before spouting off. That B****, along with Hillary, should be in prison.
Here is some research, including quotes by the POW who were supposedly “beaten to death” denying the whole thing. I agree that the AA gun picture was crappy. But the story I was refuting is the false story that she “turned over notes from POW to the NVA”. That story is a complete lie.
The long-standing claim that Jane Fonda turned smuggled messages from U.S. POWs over to their North Vietnamese captors is false.
A viral commentary accusing Jane Fonda of treason during the Vietnam War is being attributed to Barbara Walters. She did not write this.
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Originally posted by AggieMark View PostHere is some research, including quotes by the POW who were supposedly “beaten to death” denying the whole thing. I agree that the AA gun picture was crappy. But the story I was refuting is the false story that she “turned over notes from POW to the NVA”. That story is a complete lie.
The long-standing claim that Jane Fonda turned smuggled messages from U.S. POWs over to their North Vietnamese captors is false.
A viral commentary accusing Jane Fonda of treason during the Vietnam War is being attributed to Barbara Walters. She did not write this.
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Oh never mind, I see you are an Aggie.
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Originally posted by muzzlebrake View PostYou get your facts verified from Snopes?
Oh never mind, I see you are an Aggie.
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[QUOTE=AggieMark;15154168]Here is some research, including quotes by the POW who were supposedly “beaten to death” denying the whole thing. I agree that the AA gun picture was crappy. But the story I was refuting is the false story that she “turned over notes from POW to the NVA”. That story is a complete lie.
The long-standing claim that Jane Fonda turned smuggled messages from U.S. POWs over to their North Vietnamese captors is false.
A viral commentary accusing Jane Fonda of treason during the Vietnam War is being attributed to Barbara Walters. She did not write this.
Son, if you trust USA Today and Snopes, we're praying for ya.
Not braggin that I'm older than you , wish I was younger, but hoping you sit back and see the light of the truth. Your age is expected to save America and if ya'll don't change you may get the America your asking for. For example, you may be hunting with sticks if the Janes of the world get their way. Then why be in this hunting forum.....
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[quote=txhunt7;15154762]Originally posted by AggieMark View PostHere is some research, including quotes by the POW who were supposedly “beaten to death” denying the whole thing. I agree that the AA gun picture was crappy. But the story I was refuting is the false story that she “turned over notes from POW to the NVA”. That story is a complete lie.
The long-standing claim that Jane Fonda turned smuggled messages from U.S. POWs over to their North Vietnamese captors is false.
A viral commentary accusing Jane Fonda of treason during the Vietnam War is being attributed to Barbara Walters. She did not write this.
Son, if you trust USA Today and Snopes, we're praying for ya.
Not braggin that I'm older than you , wish I was younger, but hoping you sit back and see the light of the truth. Your age is expected to save America and if ya'll don't change you may get the America your asking for. For example, you may be hunting with sticks if the Janes of the world get their way. Then why be in this hunting forum.....
Can you provide any evidence that it happened?
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[quote=txhunt7;15154762]Originally posted by AggieMark View PostHere is some research, including quotes by the POW who were supposedly “beaten to death” denying the whole thing. I agree that the AA gun picture was crappy. But the story I was refuting is the false story that she “turned over notes from POW to the NVA”. That story is a complete lie.
The long-standing claim that Jane Fonda turned smuggled messages from U.S. POWs over to their North Vietnamese captors is false.
A viral commentary accusing Jane Fonda of treason during the Vietnam War is being attributed to Barbara Walters. She did not write this.
Son, if you trust USA Today and Snopes, we're praying for ya.
Not braggin that I'm older than you , wish I was younger, but hoping you sit back and see the light of the truth. Your age is expected to save America and if ya'll don't change you may get the America your asking for. For example, you may be hunting with sticks if the Janes of the world get their way. Then why be in this hunting forum.....
Captain O-6, U.S. Navy
Veteran of:
U.S. Naval Academy 1958-1962
U.S. Navy 1962-1987
Cold War 1962-1987
Vietnam War 1965-1973 (POW)
Former president of NAM-POWS.
This is a copy of a letter written by Mr. McGrath when he was president of NAM-POWs https://nam-pows.org/
From NAM-POWs President Mike McGrath
(1) There is a bogus story floating around about Larry Carrigan, Jane Fonda, torture of POWs, death of POWs, strips of paper, notes given to Jane, etc. I just thought you should know that this is all bull crap propagated by someone for some unknown purpose....probably to bolster some hate against the traitorous witch.
I'm not defending her, we all hate her as much as the next person, but you need to get your stories straight.
Jerry Driscoll is my Secretary/Treasurer. I just talked to him. Same for A.J. Myers. They had nothing to do with the article attributed to them. They ask that we get their names off that bunch of crap. Tonight I talked with Larry Carrigan. He asked that we get his name off all that crap as well.
He never left a room to talk to anyone like that. No torture or beatings to see Fonda. He was living with Bud Day, John McCain and a bunch of hard nosed resistors during the Fonda visit...lots of witnesses if you want to question him (or them). Larry was never near Jane.
There were never any POWs killed on account of Jane. (Did anyone ever provide a name of one of these tortured fellows?)
That story about the notes has a nice theatric touch, but no such thing ever happened. The only ones who met with Jane willingly, to my knowledge, were CDR Gene Wilber and LCOL Ed Miller. One NAM-POW was forced to go before the Fonda delegation. And I think that was only to sit at a table for a photo opportunity. I doubt he even got a chance to talk to her let alone slip her a note.
To my knowledge, the worst that happened to the rest of us was that we had to listen to the camp radio (Radio Hanoi and Hanoi Hannah) with the Fonda propaganda. It ****** us off, but I doubt you can call that "torture." So, if you get a chance to SHUT THIS STORY DOWN to the groups who are forwarding it, PLEASE DO SO. You can cut and paste this paragraph if you want to. Doubters can come to me if they need to.
Mike McGrath,
President of NAM-POWs
POW 30 June 67 to 4 March 73
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[quote=Phillip Fields;15155580]Originally posted by txhunt7 View Post
I don't trust USA Today or Snopes but I do trust Mike McGrath:
Captain O-6, U.S. Navy
Veteran of:
U.S. Naval Academy 1958-1962
U.S. Navy 1962-1987
Cold War 1962-1987
Vietnam War 1965-1973 (POW)
Former president of NAM-POWS.
This is a copy of a letter written by Mr. McGrath when he was president of NAM-POWs https://nam-pows.org/
From NAM-POWs President Mike McGrath
(1) There is a bogus story floating around about Larry Carrigan, Jane Fonda, torture of POWs, death of POWs, strips of paper, notes given to Jane, etc. I just thought you should know that this is all bull crap propagated by someone for some unknown purpose....probably to bolster some hate against the traitorous witch.
I'm not defending her, we all hate her as much as the next person, but you need to get your stories straight.
Jerry Driscoll is my Secretary/Treasurer. I just talked to him. Same for A.J. Myers. They had nothing to do with the article attributed to them. They ask that we get their names off that bunch of crap. Tonight I talked with Larry Carrigan. He asked that we get his name off all that crap as well.
He never left a room to talk to anyone like that. No torture or beatings to see Fonda. He was living with Bud Day, John McCain and a bunch of hard nosed resistors during the Fonda visit...lots of witnesses if you want to question him (or them). Larry was never near Jane.
There were never any POWs killed on account of Jane. (Did anyone ever provide a name of one of these tortured fellows?)
That story about the notes has a nice theatric touch, but no such thing ever happened. The only ones who met with Jane willingly, to my knowledge, were CDR Gene Wilber and LCOL Ed Miller. One NAM-POW was forced to go before the Fonda delegation. And I think that was only to sit at a table for a photo opportunity. I doubt he even got a chance to talk to her let alone slip her a note.
To my knowledge, the worst that happened to the rest of us was that we had to listen to the camp radio (Radio Hanoi and Hanoi Hannah) with the Fonda propaganda. It ****** us off, but I doubt you can call that "torture." So, if you get a chance to SHUT THIS STORY DOWN to the groups who are forwarding it, PLEASE DO SO. You can cut and paste this paragraph if you want to. Doubters can come to me if they need to.
Mike McGrath,
President of NAM-POWs
POW 30 June 67 to 4 March 73
Mic drop....
Thank you sir for your service to our country!
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