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    Is there a line in the sand?

    Not sure how to word this.. But lots of people here believe they would fight for everyone's rights if they agree with them or not.

    Where is the line where you stop fighting for the majorities rights? Only when it hurts you and your family or not even at that point?

    What if the majority votes to add more Supreme Court Judges next time a liberal if President and they vote to stack it with liberals?

    What if "the people" vote to take away your guns?

    Does majority rule always..or will you stop fighting for others rights at some point?

    #2
    You sure can ask a clouded question. I have always had a tolerance level. When younger and kids and wife dependent on me I tolerated a lot. Before I was eligible for retirement I tolerated more than would today. I will fight for a person’s Constitutional Rights whether I agree with their stance or not

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      #3
      Originally posted by RiverRat1 View Post
      Not sure how to word this.. But lots of people here believe they would fight for everyone's rights if they agree with them or not.

      Where is the line where you stop fighting for the majorities rights? Only when it hurts you and your family or not even at that point?

      What if the majority votes to add more Supreme Court Judges next time a liberal if President and they vote to stack it with liberals?

      What if "the people" vote to take away your guns?

      Does majority rule always..or will you stop fighting for others rights at some point?
      Its not fighting for everyone’s rights if its restricting rights. Majority rule and equal rights for all are two very different things.

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        #4
        You can’t have it both ways. You stand for one, you have to stand for all.

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          #5
          I don't think our rights have ever been about the majority.
          I think the slighting of our rights to those in minority groups has at times been overlooked and allowed. I also think correcting those things is just. Whether that group is a minority in race, religion or whatever.

          However I don't think what is going on in our nation right now is about our constitutional rights.
          I think, in too many cases, it is about people feeling entitled. And the louder and more violent those groups are the more the media proclaims the just of their complaints.

          As far as taking a stand, well I guess that depends on how that is defined and what we are standing for. As for the second amendment I don't think much will be thought of as a "stand" per say. I think they'll make out those who refuse to submit and comply as mentally unstable, zealots and enemies of the people.

          How we take back the initiative in this wave of Marxism that is sweeping the world I do not know. I'm a firm believer in using the system and playing by the rules. I don't believe that at this point that is a winnable fight as the media and professional politicians have cheated and stacked the deck against the constitutional supporters in our country.

          So go to guns? It may come to that. But if it does there will be no turning back. And the impact to our way of life could be devastating.
          Question is who is going to fire the first volley and how many will be standing shoulder to shoulder with that patriot.

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            #6
            The constitution has was not written to blow with the political winds. It was written as a solid foundation to build upon. We cannot allow mob rule to break our foundation.

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              #7
              Originally posted by GarGuy View Post
              The constitution has was not written to blow with the political winds. It was written as a solid foundation to build upon. We cannot allow mob rule to break our foundation.
              Could it also be said that the constitution was written so that it could be amended? Did political winds give blacks and women the right to vote?

              GarGuy, Glad you are feeling better.

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                #8
                Originally posted by GarGuy View Post
                The constitution has was not written to blow with the political winds. It was written as a solid foundation to build upon. We cannot allow mob rule to break our foundation.
                I agree to a point, well probably completely, except....what if the populace becomes so far tilted to the leftist? say 75%-25. Gets cloudy there for sure.
                That is a super majority, but this country ceases to be if they rule enough to change the basic concepts of the founded America(as if the courts haven't done that already) Does 25% have the right to over rule 75% because the constitution has been changed?

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Hills of Texas View Post
                  You can’t have it both ways. You stand for one, you have to stand for all.
                  No, you are wrong on this one. Right now, the constitution is interpreted to allow women to kill their unborn children. I will do whatever I can to end abortion and I will not defend that 'right'.

                  SH

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by yaqui View Post
                    Could it also be said that the constitution was written so that it could be amended? Did political winds give blacks and women the right to vote?

                    GarGuy, Glad you are feeling better.
                    It was written with the understanding that at some point it would most certainly be amended BUT the way to amend it is spelled out. The framers never intended for the constitution to be amended by the courts. See Article V for specifics.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by yaqui View Post
                      Could it also be said that the constitution was written so that it could be amended? Did political winds give blacks and women the right to vote?

                      GarGuy, Glad you are feeling better.
                      Does the constitution say blacks and women can't vote? It is a base line for laws to be built upon my legislators elected by the people.
                      Last edited by GarGuy; 10-01-2020, 09:52 AM.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by GarGuy View Post
                        Does the constitution say blacks and women can't vote? It is a base line for laws to be built upon my legislators elected by the people.
                        Wasn't written preventing them from voting but the law of the and said they couldn't.
                        Those amendments would not have been needed if not for corrupted men and illicit laws of exclusion.
                        A baseline maybe. Meant to be amended maybe. But not fundamentally changed or dismantled.

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                          #13
                          Laws are made to be amended and changed. They should evolve with the public evolution. It should be extremely hard to change our founding principals. That should be the line in the sand.

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                            #14
                            Older and retired. I'll let you young ones fight it out! You are the future of America for my Grand kids.

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                              #15
                              We are not a democracy. The majority doesn't rule. Democracys can lead to mob rule, which is what you're talking about.

                              We are a republic. This is the same reason we have an electoral college.

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