Ginsburg is Dead

[Mike D]

LOL Dude I’m no troll. I can’t spend hours on here responding to every post or response to my post. I haven’t seen my wife all day and I’m helping my kid with homework. But to answer your question:
Fact: Biden helped pass Obamacare
Fact: Obamacare is good for my business and industry in general.
Fact: Trump wants to abolish OCare.
and Biden won’t.
Fact: In this case, for me, Biden would be better.


I could give you a few more where I think he’d be better like strengthening our domestic API supply chain, but, to your question, I don’t really think this election is about Biden. In fact, it’s unfortunate, but most can’t answer questions about Biden because they don’t care. As long as he isn’t trump.



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I don’t know what specific part of the medical industry you are in where Obamacare is good or what makes you think it’s good for the industry but most of my family is in the healthcare industry and they hate it. My career is based around healthcare facilities and I’ve not talked to one single administrator that likes it.


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[flywise]

I really find it hard to believe anyone thinks Trump is the problem. The only thing he does is put America first and toss out a stupid tweet from time to time and some would give up this country because of it.
I can’t understand why he thinks Trump has anything to do with the turmoil going on in this country. The tactics employed in all the turmoil across the country are straight out of the Marxist hand book. China’s cultural revolution looked exactly the same way. Cuba, Venezuela, Russia all looked just like this in the beginning and all had the same results. There is no Trump or Trump supporters threat to this country. Trump has not created turmoil in America or the world. Are people bent because he is not allowing this country to take it in the *** any longer.....he’ll yeah but that’s a good thing.

[SabineHunter]

[emoji23] you have no idea what I am. In fact, there are some on TBH, maybe even reading this post, that have shared deer leases with me or helped me with cattle that can attest that I’m certainly no leftist. I did, begrudgingly vote for Trump in 2016 and I’ve explained why. And you may be right, maybe you’re a political science genius that has determined how Trump wins 40+ states big. If he does, on Nov 4 I’ll be the first one to come on here and give you props. But if I were a leftist, I would tell you I’m a leftist. I’m not trying to troll anything. I thought we were having a gentlemanly discussion amongst outdoorsmen and I just have a difference of opinion when it comes to this president. Calling folks losers, what are we in 5th grade🤣?? That’s Trump speak.


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Trump speak? Thank you for the compliment. You are on the Biden side which is going to lose this Nov. and that should be easy to understand. You have been found to be liberal and I have not read of one person who has come to your defense that you are not a liberal. The reason you are voting for Biden, as you say, is very selfish, but I don't believe you voted for TRUMP and you have been voting liberal all along. Trump is going to win and you are going to lose.

[glen]

RCole. Thanks for posting your reason to vote. I can’t fault a man for voting the way he feels is best for his family. It is a vote- your vote. I also vote for who is beat for my family. Guys can call it greedy selfish or whatever I don’t care.

We do differ on opinions on family health. I want my grandkids to have the choice to vote, right to own firearms, free to worship how they choose, and have Constitutional protections from the Government. Sure I also look at very short term and think which candidate puts more $ in our budget as well.

But in the future don’t cast your vote based on the fact you don’t like somebody’s personality. I also think Trump could have used a few lessons from my Grandmother growing up. His manners would be tenfold better. But Biden could have done the same as she wouldn’t have stood for him being friends with KKK members or standing on both sides of the fence and if she caught me speaking to someone that sang “WAP” I’d have knots on my skull

[Full Throttle]

Rcole do you really value padding your pockets more than protecting the unborn and keeping your guns? Do you really value money more than joining those on the left that want to turn us into a socialist country? Do you not see how the left is attacking freedom of religion and speech??? Your personal bank account means more than all of that? If so, you might be the most selfish person on tbh. Might be time for a gut check if you value those other things for our country and your children’s future.


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[RiverRat1]

Just like I said......can’t back up his words. All I hear are crickets chirping as he logs off once again. Troll

My favorite is how he calls himself an idiot acting like we are calling him an idiot

[RiverRat1]

There’s got to be more to it than that. My wife is in the medical field and hates Obamacare.
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Being in the medical field with a regular job is different than being the person in the medical field making craploads of money off the system (taxpayers).

Meaning we are currently profiteering on obamascam in some capacity & it must not be interrupted...there are a ton in this camp that otherwise were swinging right handed. Don't be fooled.

I get it now. I can see why he'd vote for Biden. It's called money over everything else or a traitor IMO.

[Johnny Dangerr]

People vote their wallet. My twin brother was a colledge professor and I own a small business. Guess which way we vote...............

[SaltwaterSlick]

Guys, this is the same Cole that was pizz'd at Trump because he made the Chinese mad while his company and others were working with the Communists who released this Kung Flu on us to start with... Remember those early Kung Flu threads... This guy cares NOTHING for this country. He cares ONLY for his own pocketbook... The rest of the country be ****ed... How in the world does someone like that sleep at night? He's doing his part to sell his kid's inheritance and freedoms all for the almighty dollar today! Apparently whatever he does in the medical field would not work if Obamascam were to be stopped. That tells me that he is PART of the scam... It fits really. The liberals shout the loudest when accusing someone of doing something they themselves are doing... If you shout loudest and longest, you must be the rightest...

[Rcole1310]

[QUOTE=Mike D;15118428]There’s got to be more to it than that. My wife is in the medical field and hates Obamacare.


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Obamacare has a ton of problems. I haven’t really met anyone that thinks it’s great. In fact I don’t think my wife even accepts it. But I can tell you, I was running around like a maniac trying to find help for patients that were on Medicare, in the donut hole with no gap insurance. They were screwed depending on what they needed. Now, a ton of them are on OCare market place plans which opens up a lot of options. At least in my neck of the woods it gave a lot of folks insurance (albeit crappy) that didn’t have it before, and that gives some folks options for help that are actually illegal if you have managed Medicaid or Medicare (i.e. copay assistance). But yeah, it jacked premiums and covered less. I’d love to see another option that doesn’t just punt the money to the states and tells them to figure it out.

Also, my business was just ONE issue that I listed as the things/policies I didn’t like about trump. Now all of sudden I’m selfish and voting for my pocket?
When a candidate goes to Pennsylvania and says they’re going to save coal jobs if they vote for them, no one is calling those guys selfish for voting that way. Or a candidate says they’re going to shut down drilling, oil patch guys aren’t voting for them. I’ve voted in many state, local, and national elections and I’ve voted for one, possibly two, dems in my life and now I’m a leftist?


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[SaltwaterSlick]

Your self-justification is falling woefully short. When you find yourself in a hole the smart thing to do is quit digging.

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There’s got to be more to it than that. My wife is in the medical field and hates Obamacare.


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Obamacare has a ton of problems. I haven’t really met anyone that thinks it’s great. In fact I don’t think my wife even accepts it. But I can tell you, I was running around like a maniac trying to find help for patients that were on Medicare, in the donut hole with no gap insurance. They were screwed depending on what they needed. Now, a ton of them are on OCare market place plans which opens up a lot of options. At least in my neck of the woods it gave a lot of folks insurance (albeit crappy) that didn’t have it before, and that gives some folks options for help that are actually illegal if you have managed Medicaid or Medicare (i.e. copay assistance). But yeah, it jacked premiums and covered less. I’d love to see another option that doesn’t just punt the money to the states and tells them to figure it out.

Also, my business was just ONE issue that I listed as the things/policies I didn’t like about trump. Now all of sudden I’m selfish and voting for my pocket?
When a candidate goes to Pennsylvania and says they’re going to save coal jobs if they vote for them, no one is calling those guys selfish for voting that way. Or a candidate says they’re going to shut down drilling, oil patch guys aren’t voting for them. I’ve voted in many state, local, and national elections and I’ve voted for one, possibly two, dems in my life and now I’m a leftist?


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[Rcole1310]

Rcole do you really value padding your pockets more than protecting the unborn and keeping your guns? Do you really value money more than joining those on the left that want to turn us into a socialist country? Do you not see how the left is attacking freedom of religion and speech??? Your personal bank account means more than all of that? If so, you might be the most selfish person on tbh. Might be time for a gut check if you value those other things for our country and your children’s future.


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Look, the courts are PACKED. They are firmly conservative. I voted for Trump to do that and he did. They are going to do what conservatives do with regard to abortion and guns. So it’s not an issue of padding my pockets or flushing the country. Do you think the left will stop attacking freedom of speech all of a sudden if trump gets a new term? I think we will have another republican president after Biden and I don’t think Biden will destroy the foundation of the United States in 4 years. I don’t think he can implement socialism in 4 years. So, I don’t think voting for Trump is a zero sum game, either trump or destruction. That’s crazy talk. I’m not saying capitulate, but the country needs a cooling off period in my opinion, not a bomb thrower. THAT is why I’m voting the way I am, not to pad my pockets.


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[SaltwaterSlick]

More crawfishing and self justification... Your FIRST reason was solely financial. FACT. You really do need to stop digging... that hole is getting deeper and deeper.

[Bayouboy]

Meaning we are currently profiteering on obamascam in some capacity & it must not be interrupted...there are a ton in this camp that otherwise were swinging right handed. Don't be fooled.

Isn't the reason many of us on here are supporting Trump is because of the type of work we do or the occupation we are in? I work at a refinery. You better believe my vote will go towards someone that believes in big oil. There are other factors. But, my livelihood is definitely top 3. I certainly would not begrudge someone for saying that is a factor.