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    #16
    Originally posted by dosrobles View Post
    Sorry, non-liberal arts degree.



    His economic policy was spectacular. Beyond that.........we’ll just agree to disagree. He has alienated tons of people beyond his ability to regain their trust. The only way those people vote for him is if their fear of something else drives them to do it.


    So you think his foreign policy has not been good?
    What about domestic policy? Immigration?

    Unless you are talking about alienating illegals and people that wouldn’t never vote for him anyway I’m not sure who has been alienated. He hasn’t changed his stance on much that I’m aware of since the last election so who has he pushed the other way?
    Blacks? Take away corona and they have never done better in terms of employment same with other minorities.




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      #17
      Originally posted by dosrobles View Post
      Sorry, non-liberal arts degree.

      His economic policy was spectacular. Beyond that.........we’ll just agree to disagree. He has alienated tons of people beyond his ability to regain their trust. The only way those people vote for him is if their fear of something else drives them to do it.
      well when you just go telling everyone what they want to hear instead of what you stand for; then you are nothing more than your opposition.

      pick a side and take a stand.

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        #18
        Originally posted by dosrobles View Post
        Sorry, non-liberal arts degree.

        His economic policy was spectacular. Beyond that.........we’ll just agree to disagree. He has alienated tons of people beyond his ability to regain their trust. The only way those people vote for him is if their fear of something else drives them to do it.
        With respect, I think your way off.
        He will get more of the black vote then any republican since old Abe.
        He will get more Hispanic as well. There might be some who believe the media on how he has handled corona and switch but not many.
        Most folks who are not mental would never consider voting for these dems.

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          #19
          Originally posted by flywise View Post
          With respect, I think your way off.
          He will get more of the black vote then any republican since old Abe.
          He will get more Hispanic as well. There might be some who believe the media on how he has handled corona and switch but not many.
          Most folks who are not mental would never consider voting for these dems.
          I disagree, but no one has called to ask my opinion. I don’t get a ton of input from the black or Hispanic community. I do a ton of work in construction and real estate development. The upper end guys I deal with are probably 50/50 for/against Trump. In 2016 that would have been 90/10 for Trump. Now you do have to take into account that I am primarily in Austin, but I deal with people from all over the country and I strongly believe that there are a huge number of college degreed conservatives that will not vote for him.

          No one I know blames him for covid, but many of them (I agree) think his lack of leadership has extended the length of the problem and has, no doubt begun to erode the strength of the dollar.

          Whole separate issue on how he has lead during this protest cluster.

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            #20
            So the huge number of college degreed “conservatives “ think Biden is better? If that’s true, I’m having a hard time believing they are true conservatives at all.

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              #21
              Originally posted by webb09 View Post
              So the huge number of college degreed “conservatives “ think Biden is better? If that’s true, I’m having a hard time believing they are true conservatives at all.
              So if they don’t agree with you they are not conservative. Trump is not a conservative. He is a nationalist.

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                #22
                Originally posted by dosrobles View Post
                So if they don’t agree with you they are not conservative. Trump is not a conservative. He is a nationalist.
                nothing wrong with being a 'NATIONALIST' is there? I mean putting your country first before all others... what's wrong with that?

                and please name one country on the face of the planet that doesn't look out for themselves first.
                why are we supposed to be the worlds flop house for every derelict in the world?

                yeah I know they all just come here for the..... wait, what? the racism and azz beating and killing by the police; right?
                Last edited by stickerpatch59; 08-03-2020, 08:01 PM.

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                  #23
                  IMO NO person who says they are conservative, would ever even think about voting for Biden

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                    #24
                    And please elaborate on just how his lack of leadership has extended the Covid pandemic and what you think he should have done differently....... on a virus no one knows a d*** thing about

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by dosrobles View Post
                      I disagree, but no one has called to ask my opinion. I don’t get a ton of input from the black or Hispanic community. I do a ton of work in construction and real estate development. The upper end guys I deal with are probably 50/50 for/against Trump. In 2016 that would have been 90/10 for Trump. Now you do have to take into account that I am primarily in Austin, but I deal with people from all over the country and I strongly believe that there are a huge number of college degreed conservatives that will not vote for him.

                      No one I know blames him for covid, but many of them (I agree) think his lack of leadership has extended the length of the problem and has, no doubt begun to erode the strength of the dollar.

                      Whole separate issue on how he has lead during this protest cluster.
                      I can assure you, people in the construction and real estate industries are praying to God Trump wins. If he doesn’t, their industries will suffer tremendously....and they KNOW IT!

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Ironman View Post
                        I can assure you, people in the construction and real estate industries are praying to God Trump wins. If he doesn’t, their industries will suffer tremendously....and they KNOW IT!


                        So is every other educated individual that has any vested interest in anything financial. It’s kinda stupid to think anyone with skin in the game would want to go back to the policies of Obama. Social issues may be dominating the headlines but money is what matters.


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                          #27
                          Originally posted by dosrobles View Post
                          So if they don’t agree with you they are not conservative. Trump is not a conservative. He is a nationalist.
                          Trump is a pragmatist and an opportunist. He's also the only president in my lifetime who actually did what he said he'd do after he got elected. You're going to see a freakin' landslide for Trump this November. And most of the people you're talking about will just stay home; they're not voting for Biden. A few might vote for a novelty candidate on the fringe, but the vast majority will just stay home and pout. "Aaah, Trump is a meanie!"

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by stickerpatch59 View Post
                            nothing wrong with being a 'NATIONALIST' is there? I mean putting your country first before all others... what's wrong with that?

                            and please name one country on the face of the planet that doesn't look out for themselves first.
                            why are we supposed to be the worlds flop house for every derelict in the world?

                            yeah I know they all just come here for the..... wait, what? the racism and azz beating and killing by the police; right?
                            Hitler was a nationalist. And before you jump to assumptions, I’m not comparing Trump to Hitler. I’m simply answering your question being a nationalist can be wrong in certain contexts and practice. And making the point that any political philosophy can be abused, except for maybe constitutionalism. If the constitution is stringently applied it benefits all equally.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by dosrobles View Post
                              So if they don’t agree with you they are not conservative. Trump is not a conservative. He is a nationalist.
                              Nationalist= patriot

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Ironman View Post
                                I can assure you, people in the construction and real estate industries are praying to God Trump wins. If he doesn’t, their industries will suffer tremendously....and they KNOW IT!
                                You can’t assure me anything. I am heavily involved in both and I am telling you many of them will not vote for him. I respectfully disagree with your claim completely.

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