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    #31
    Obviously there will be a spike from all the people protesting.

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      #32
      Originally posted by ThisLadyHunts View Post
      I don’t have numbers on this, but from what I hear, I high percentage of deaths are from that population. In fact, the CDC has asked that all deaths from diabetes, heart, or stroke be classified as a COVID death, whether the patient tested positive or not. People with those diseases imply an older population.
      I wonder what is the purpose of the CDC asking to have those cases from diabetes, heart and stroke being classified as Covid? I would think that would inflate and skewer the facts/numbers.

      Just to be clear I don't doubt for a second you are correct. My next door neighbor works for Baylor Scott & White adn he told me months ago, they were classifying patients admitted and dying with Covid 19... Just makes wonder.
      Last edited by Matt_C; 06-25-2020, 09:33 AM.

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        #33
        I don’t know the answer to this and did not ask. I wonder the same thing myself.

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          #34
          Originally posted by TxKronik View Post
          Obviously there will be a spike from all the people protesting.
          Not per the media . I've seen headlines stating that the protests had no effect on the number of Covid cases. We're at a new level of absurdity.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Pedernal View Post
            Fox and Friends this morning just reported that "the largest hospital in the Houston area has their ICU at 97% capacity". Not sure if anyone in the know can verify this.
            Originally posted by BrandonH View Post
            Not just one hospital, but the entire Houston Med Center's ICU beds are currently at 97% capacity. My hospital just outside Houston is nearing capacity.

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            Yes the above is correct but very misleading!!! Of the 97% capacity in Houston Medical Center only 27% is COVID related and if you consider that the CDC has advised reporting of heart, stroke and diabetes cases as COVID it skews the numbers greatly.
            Last edited by Hardware; 06-25-2020, 10:16 AM.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Matt_C View Post
              I wonder what is the purpose of the CDC asking to have those cases from diabetes, heart and stroke being classified as Covid? I would think that would inflate and skewer the facts/numbers.

              Just to be clear I don't doubt for a second you are correct. My next door neighbor works for Baylor Scott & White adn he told me months ago, they were classifying patients admitted and dying with Covid 19... Just makes wonder.
              Originally posted by ThisLadyHunts View Post
              I don’t know the answer to this and did not ask. I wonder the same thing myself.
              MONEY!!! If a hospital classifies a patient as COVID you automatically get additional payment from Government between 9,000 to 13,000 and if patient is put on vent an additional 38,000.

              Last edited by Hardware; 06-25-2020, 10:06 AM. Reason: Correction and additions.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Pedernal View Post
                What is the medical history of people getting hospitalized... are they predominantly people with underlying serious medical conditions??
                They will never tell you that.

                Originally posted by TxKronik View Post
                Obviously there will be a spike from all the people protesting.
                One would think this would be obvious. But too many people are too stupid to put two and two together

                Originally posted by Hardware View Post
                Yes the above is correct but very misleading!!! Of the 97% capacity in Houston Medical Center only 26% is COVID related and if you consider that the CDC has advised reporting of heart, stroke and diabetes cases as COVID it skews the numbers greatly.
                Not doubting you, but do you have a source for this claim? A link or anything?

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by WItoTX View Post
                  They will never tell you that.



                  One would think this would be obvious. But too many people are too stupid to put two and two together



                  Not doubting you, but do you have a source for this claim? A link or anything?
                  If you were watching when announced on both Fox & Friends and Houston local news channels at the very end of the story they both said of the 97% capacity only 27% were COVID related. By the way it was 90% yesterday and Covid related was the same so it went up 7% overnight but not from COVID cases!!

                  Here ya go!!!
                  Intensive Care Units at hospitals throughout the Houston area could surpass total occupancy as soon as Thursday, according to data released by the Texas Medical Center.
                  Last edited by Hardware; 06-25-2020, 10:23 AM. Reason: additions

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Hardware View Post
                    If you were watching when announced on both Fox & Friends and Houston local news channels at the very end of the story they both said of the 97% capacity only 27% were COVID related.

                    Here ya go!!!
                    https://www.click2houston.com/news/l...ay-data-shows/
                    Nah, I generally don't watch network TV. They spew their political spin all the time.

                    Awesome, thanks!

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Hardware View Post
                      If you were watching when announced on both Fox & Friends and Houston local news channels at the very end of the story they both said of the 97% capacity only 27% were COVID related. By the way it was 90% yesterday and Covid related was the same so it went up 7% overnight but not from COVID cases!!

                      Here ya go!!!
                      https://www.click2houston.com/news/l...ay-data-shows/
                      27% of total capacity is a big number. Really big and getting bigger. Hospitals weren't built to handle Covid type infections, and excess capacity can be taken up very quickly. Once taken up by Covid, there isn't room in ICU for what they were built for. It is a snowball thing.

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by BrianL View Post
                        27% of total capacity is a big number. Really big and getting bigger. Hospitals weren't built to handle Covid type infections, and excess capacity can be taken up very quickly. Once taken up by Covid, there isn't room in ICU for what they were built for. It is a snowball thing.
                        6.77 million is total population of Houston Metroplex and we have the largest Medical Center in the whole world. If we had 100% infection rate we would have 67,700 serious to critical cases that require hospital stays and of that ICU stays would be 1,354 at current worldwide statistics. We will not have 100% infection rate all at once so I feel very confident we can handle the situation. The Media has way over-hyped this for the public. I know that yes there is a virus but 99% of people recover without hospitalizations according to worldwide numbers.

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by WItoTX View Post
                          Nah, I generally don't watch network TV. They spew their political spin all the time.

                          Awesome, thanks!
                          I'm with ya on network but wife had on as I was walking out the door!!!

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                            #43
                            There is a substantial increase going on with COVID positive people. Hospitals have let staff go due to a stoppage in elective surgeries. Most Hospitals are losing money. Many now are understaffed and those working are being overworked and working with more patients than they should. One Covid patient pulls a nurse out of the rotation and severely impacts the time required to manage that patient and others. Gowning up with protective gear, gowning down with protective gear. The caring for multiple patients is reduced so the other nurses have to take on the additional load of the nurse caring for the COVID Patient/Patients. Now she can only handle three patients when before she could handle five or six. All because the Hospitals do not want to pay for adequate staff because they are losing money. There are not enough medial staff to care for the potential number of sick patients. Wash your hands and maintain social distancing

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Hardware View Post
                              6.77 million is total population of Houston Metroplex and we have the largest Medical Center in the whole world. If we had 100% infection rate we would have 67,700 serious to critical cases that require hospital stays and of that ICU stays would be 1,354 at current worldwide statistics. We will not have 100% infection rate all at once so I feel very confident we can handle the situation. The Media has way over-hyped this for the public. I know that yes there is a virus but 99% of people recover without hospitalizations according to worldwide numbers.
                              Where are you getting your % of critical and % of hospitalization ratios?

                              Located in the heart of Houston, Texas Medical Center campus is home to leaders in research, medicine, and innovation in healthcare.
                              Last edited by BrianL; 06-25-2020, 01:28 PM.

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by Still Hunter View Post
                                There is a substantial increase going on with COVID positive people. Hospitals have let staff go due to a stoppage in elective surgeries. Most Hospitals are losing money. Many now are understaffed and those working are being overworked and working with more patients than they should. One Covid patient pulls a nurse out of the rotation and severely impacts the time required to manage that patient and others. Gowning up with protective gear, gowning down with protective gear. The caring for multiple patients is reduced so the other nurses have to take on the additional load of the nurse caring for the COVID Patient/Patients. Now she can only handle three patients when before she could handle five or six. All because the Hospitals do not want to pay for adequate staff because they are losing money. There are not enough medial staff to care for the potential number of sick patients. Wash your hands and maintain social distancing
                                There is no doubt Corona is causing logistical issues, and while they are called elective, a lot of those surgeries are anything but elective. But there is also serious hyping going on. Houston Methodist said they currently at 90%, but typically are at 80-90%. They also said they have room to expand if needed, but that they don't foresee needing to expand. This was reported on KTRH just a hour ago.

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