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    Flu vs coronavirus

    Random net-surfing thought...

    Per CDC reports, somewhere around 56-61k people here in the US die every year due to the flu and flu-like symptoms...deaths attributed to the coronavirus worldwide are at about 3k.

    Is it just too early to know the extent that this virus will spread, and how dangerous it is? Or is this topic being blown out of proportion since disasters make for good headlines and clicks?

    #2
    Only time will tell but the phrases "makin a mountain out of a mole hill" and "Make hay while the sun shines" come to mind

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      #3
      It's not rocket science.

      The death rate is 5-10 times that of the flu. It just hasn't spread as much. Point is that if it was allowed to spread or get out of control the number of deaths would dwarf flu deaths.

      And a far more percent of people who get CV need to be hospitalized. So if it did spread our health systems may crumble.

      But IMO as long as one's healthy there's not a lot to worry about. I just worry about idiots who are going to panic when real confirmed cases start coming out...probably over night tonight.

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        #4
        Originally posted by 3rdShot View Post
        Random net-surfing thought...

        Per CDC reports, somewhere around 56-61k people here in the US die every year due to the flu and flu-like symptoms...deaths attributed to the coronavirus worldwide are at about 3k.

        Is it just too early to know the extent that this virus will spread, and how dangerous it is? Or is this topic being blown out of proportion since disasters make for good headlines and clicks?
        It appears that CV has a higher mortality rate than influenza.

        However.......

        If a disease has a 30% fatality rate but only 1,000 contract it, 300 will die. If another disease has a mortality rate of 0.1% and a million people contract it, 1,000 people will die.

        So which is worse, the one that will kill 1 out of 1,000 or the horrific 30 out of 100?

        CV by news kills 2-3%. That is substantial. But.... if it isn’t wide spread, it will be like the lottery whereas influenza might be contracted by 100 million people in this country. That is where the high numbers of deaths come from, sheer volume of the incidents.

        I work with about 200 people. If everyone caught the CV at a 2% mortality rate, 4 if my coworkers and friends would die. I would call that horrific.

        Hopefully this won’t spread significantly just like the last few claimed near end of the world viruses never spread out of control.

        I am thinking this might go like the swine flu or west Nile virus.

        In my opinion.

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          #5
          IMO Italy will help us see what the real death rate is soon. They seem to be one of the first ones doing accurate reporting. That or they just catch it easier as confirmed cases there are jumping fast. Most people assume other places are just not testing enough.

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            #6
            Mother nature’s way of thinning the herd? Honestly, I’m sick of the news coverage it’s getting though. I’m not worried about it at all. Hell, part of me wants to expose myself to it just to demonstrate how stupid the fear mongering behind it is. My risk of death by car accident is exponentially greater.
            Last edited by TwoHighways; 03-01-2020, 06:17 PM.

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              #7
              Originally posted by TwoHighways View Post
              Mother nature’s way of thinning the herd? Honestly, I’m sick of the news coverage it’s getting though. I’m not worried about it at all. Hell, part of me wants to expose myself to it just to demonstrate how stupid the fear mongering behind it is. My risk of death by car accident is exponentially greater.
              Friday on the radio I heard that they were looking for vaccine volunteers for a couple of months from now.

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                #8
                Originally posted by RiverRat1 View Post
                It's not rocket science.

                The death rate is 5-10 times that of the flu. It just hasn't spread as much. Point is that if it was allowed to spread or get out of control the number of deaths would dwarf flu deaths.

                And a far more percent of people who get CV need to be hospitalized. So if it did spread our health systems may crumble.

                But IMO as long as one's healthy there's not a lot to worry about. I just worry about idiots who are going to panic when real confirmed cases start coming out...probably over night tonight.
                In China, the mortality rate from influenza A is 1.6%, and influenza B is 2.3%. CV has been right around 2%. It is no more deadly than the flu when comparing apples to apples.

                https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...163-X/fulltext

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by TwoHighways View Post
                  Mother nature’s way of thinning the herd? Honestly, I’m sick of the news coverage it’s getting though. I’m not worried about it at all. Hell, part of me wants to expose myself to it just to demonstrate how stupid the fear mongering behind it is. My risk of death by car accident is exponentially greater.
                  So we have a real heartless Tough guy on our hands by making your statements of thinning the heard, etc. Come on did you read what you typed.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by TwoHighways View Post
                    Mother nature’s way of thinning the herd? Honestly, I’m sick of the news coverage it’s getting though. I’m not worried about it at all. Hell, part of me wants to expose myself to it just to demonstrate how stupid the fear mongering behind it is. My risk of death by car accident is exponentially greater.
                    Wow. Be better than this.

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                      #11
                      Heard there is a confirmed case in San Antonio. Any news?

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by gatt40 View Post
                        Heard there is a confirmed case in San Antonio. Any news?
                        Yes. A person was released from quarantine and then re-tested to be positive- after visiting some public cases of course (I believe a hotel was confirmed). And yes, the people are already ransacking a few places for supplies. It will no doubt be worse in the next few days as word of mouth spreads.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by WItoTX View Post
                          In China, the mortality rate from influenza A is 1.6%, and influenza B is 2.3%. CV has been right around 2%. It is no more deadly than the flu when comparing apples to apples.



                          https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...163-X/fulltext
                          Correct and their health care system sucks, they are living like rats in a cage and you cannot trust anything their government says.
                          Well our either but . . .

                          Gary

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                              #15
                              Some of you are assuming we are getting accurate reporting of the virus out of China, which is more than likely not the case from what I have read.

                              I think people are blowing it out of proportion, but it is something to keep an eye on for sure.

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