It's obvious here who doesn't pay for their own insurance. Why should they care what insurance cost? Maybe, just maybe they have a sizable deductible, and reality will slap them in the face one day. But then again, if you don't have to pay for your own insurance, the deductible is really no big deal.
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Originally posted by Ironman View PostIt's obvious here who doesn't pay for their own insurance. Why should they care what insurance cost? Maybe, just maybe they have a sizable deductible, and reality will slap them in the face one day. But then again, if you don't have to pay for your own insurance, the deductible is really no big deal.
Only way I've reached those levels is by having a kid.
Each time we have reached that $10k limit.
Thank God but now kids only go for shots and check ups a couple times per year.
I'll pay 10% more if everyone was able to have health care.
How is that any different than guys not in o&g saying they'd pay $3.50 for a gallon of gas when it is only $2.00 to keep a handful of folks employed in the oil patch?
It's all a form of socialism.
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Originally posted by Ironman View PostIt's obvious here who doesn't pay for their own insurance. Why should they care what insurance cost? Maybe, just maybe they have a sizable deductible, and reality will slap them in the face one day. But then again, if you don't have to pay for your own insurance, the deductible is really no big deal.
I do not have a lot of faith they will get it right, but do applaud they are foregoing their scheduled vacation / recess to address the situation. Likely all window dressing, but looks good.
If you want it fixed right, make every law maker in DC have to abide & use the same system they are passing laws for us...this is the problem. The folks who say it's so awesome won't even acknowledge the folks who passed this are totally exempt from it's practice & have tax payer 1st class care till they are dead.
Pathetic to even try & support this disastrous law indeed...trying to side skirt it with education is even more pathetic & a typical angle. Horrible law that is bleeding us out & the future will prove it if too blind to see what it has already done. EVERYONE'S healthcare coverage has gone up substantially accept for the ones who are riding the tax payers coat tails. Not a debate anyone can win if focused on the merits / facts. Pathetic.
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Originally posted by texansfan View PostI pay $450 per month for a family plan and have a $4k deductible before my insurance starts paying 80/20 then I keep paying until I've reached $10k paid in a calendar year then they pay 100% after that.
Only way I've reached those levels is by having a kid.
Each time we have reached that $10k limit.
Thank God but now kids only go for shots and check ups a couple times per year.
I'll pay 10% more if everyone was able to have health care.
How is that any different than guys not in o&g saying they'd pay $3.50 for a gallon of gas when it is only $2.00 to keep a handful of folks employed in the oil patch?
It's all a form of socialism.
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Originally posted by Ironman View Post$450 a month? 4K deductible? Mine was higher than that LONG before ACA. I could afford two median mortgages for what insurance is costing now, with a 10K deductible.
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Originally posted by Ironman View Post$450 a month? 4K deductible? Mine was higher than that LONG before ACA. I could afford two median mortgages for what insurance is costing now, with a 10K deductible.
Also, that's my portion. I don't know how much the company pays to the health insurer.
Everyone's compensation package us different.
Some of those above me pay nothing for their health coverage.
Sounds like most TBH work for tiny companies with under 100 employees where y'all can rattle off the number of employees that went to ACA because premiums rose too high.
Also, I only pay $450 to insure my family.
The company gives me free health care for myself.
Actually I think all employees get medical coverage included but to add a spouse or kids you have to pay.
My wife can get health insurance through her company but she can't see her doctor on her companies plans so she's on mine and my job charges us a $100 per month penalty because of it.
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Originally posted by texansfan View PostI get my health insurance from an employer that has over 50k employees. 10k of those being in Texas.
Also, that's my portion. I don't know how much the company pays to the health insurer.
Everyone's compensation package us different.
Some of those above me pay nothing for their health coverage.
Sounds like most TBH work for tiny companies with under 100 employees where y'all can rattle off the number of employees that went to ACA because premiums rose too high.
Also, I only pay $450 to insure my family.
The company gives me free health care for myself.
Actually I think all employees get medical coverage included but to add a spouse or kids you have to pay.
My wife can get health insurance through her company but she can't see her doctor on her companies plans so she's on mine and my job charges us a $100 per month penalty because of it.
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Originally posted by Artos View PostIt's also obvious who is benefitting from this 'tax' & not recognizing govt run health care is a disaster all over the globe...if it is not repealed & addressed properly, it is going to completely spring board our economy into turmoil. The facts show it's a disaster, yet they do not care about the books. dam the torpedoes, right??
I do not have a lot of faith they will get it right, but do applaud they are foregoing their scheduled vacation / recess to address the situation. Likely all window dressing, but looks good.
If you want it fixed right, make every law maker in DC have to abide & use the same system they are passing laws for us...this is the problem. The folks who say it's so awesome won't even acknowledge the folks who passed this are totally exempt from it's practice & have tax payer 1st class care till they are dead.
Pathetic to even try & support this disastrous law indeed...trying to side skirt it with education is even more pathetic & a typical angle. Horrible law that is bleeding us out & the future will prove it if too blind to see what it has already done. EVERYONE'S healthcare coverage has gone up substantially accept for the ones who are riding the tax payers coat tails. Not a debate anyone can win if focused on the merits / facts. Pathetic.
What about farmer welfare?
Everybody needs health care and education.
Whatever it costs.
Pay it.
When someone goes to Africa and comes back with Ebola or goes to Brazil and brings us Zika Tokyo brings us SARS.
Then can't afford health care then comes to work and infects you then you may sing a different tune.
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Originally posted by texansfan View PostLoL
What about farmer welfare?
Everybody needs health care and education.
Whatever it costs.
Pay it.
When someone goes to Africa and comes back with Ebola or goes to Brazil and brings us Zika Tokyo brings us SARS.
Then can't afford health care then comes to work and infects you then you may sing a different tune.
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Originally posted by Ironman View PostAs far as I'm concerned, you have absolutely no right, whatsoever to even comment on this thread, due to the simple fact that you have absolutely no clue what the ACA is doing to the majority of taxpayers in this country. Period!
I work both sides of the coin.
I help those that Can't afford coverage find financial assistance programs (I help drug companies design the programs) and I help those that can afford it get the best treatment money can buy.
I see folks that don't even have insurance they pay cash for everything
Hundreds of thousands of dollars they just sign off on it and it gets done.
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Originally posted by texansfan View PostLoL ate you serious?
I work both sides of the coin.
I help those that Can't afford coverage find financial assistance programs (I help drug companies design the programs) and I help those that can afford it get the best treatment money can buy.
I see folks that don't even have insurance they pay cash for everything
Hundreds of thousands of dollars they just sign off on it and it gets done.
Who were you calling biased?Last edited by Ironman; 07-11-2017, 08:31 PM.
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Originally posted by Ironman View PostAhhhh! So your part of the pharmaceutical problem, AND the welfare problem. Makes perfect sense now!
Who were you calling biased?
I also want to know what happened to the stats back during the election when the overwhelming majority believed O-care is a terrible idea. Now, Trump is Prez and supposedly the populace believes it is great? Forgive my skepticism.
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Originally posted by Livin'2hunt View PostI would also add, I bet he budgets his own finances differently than the crap he wants to impose on the rest of us. I asked before for him to comment on my freedom to make my own financial decisions and he deflected the hell out of that question.
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Originally posted by texansfan View PostYou're forced to pay to educate children of those who earn zero dollars per year.
Do you hate funding your local ISD as well?
Wnt not let the kids be dumb as rocks if their parents don't care enough to teach them RRR or the parent don't want to pay for them kids learning.
I think at a minimum every human being should be able to read, write and do long division as well as not to love with a medical or physical ailment.
Is that too much to provide your neighbor?Originally posted by Ironman View PostIt's obvious here who doesn't pay for their own insurance. Why should they care what insurance cost? Maybe, just maybe they have a sizable deductible, and reality will slap them in the face one day. But then again, if you don't have to pay for your own insurance, the deductible is really no big deal.
Now to the funding of my beloved HISD (who my wife works for). I would love to cut my tax dollars from going to any school that does not consistently perform! At my wifes school (which is a title 1 low income school) they get more funding that most schools. Well why is my wife and other teachers having to pull money from their own pockets to pay for supplies for students, I don't mean like pencils and papers, I mean like having to buy entire classroom sets of books to read or do math? Really, where are my tax dollars. What about when the teachers are paying for uniforms and transportation for the school sports teams? Where my money? You can say cancel those sports programs, but then you send these kids home early where their parents don't give a crap about them, they just see them as their ticket to a government check and the next hit from their crack pipe. But, that just runs the risk of those kids joining gangs like MS13. Great. Meanwhile, our superintendent was hired away from San Francisco ISD and make well into the 6 figures, how much do the trustees make that rarely go to work. Glad to see my money is going to a great cause! Meanwhile, she teaches with people who say grades don't matter and they just continue to pass kids. My wife was a first year teacher and when she got her 43 3rd graders only 4 of them had a reading level above 1st grade, thats what I like paying for. But thank god there are some teacher like my wife that have a bit of heart, she worked 12 hours a day and 6 days a week (only 5 hours on saturdays) doing extra tutorials, generally every morning two days during the afternoon then every saturday. They are suppose to get extra pay for working over time, she was only paid for 4 hours of overtime though.... because of "funding issues". Wheres my money?
maybe it is going to schools like waltrip high school that are way over budget and over a year late on its remodel? Same with lee high school, oh I mean "wisdom high school" because robert e lee was a racist, that cost a few hundred grand......
theres better ways to do things, we gotta figure it out. I know throwing more money at a money pit isnt the answer...
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