Passenger forcible removed from flight

[mighty]

13 pages?!

[8mpg]

No you're not. It is interesting that a pilots wife seems to understand more about how the news media handles stories better than some on here though.

It has been mentioned that the passenger had already been escorted off the plane once before, and then ran back onto the plane, BEFORE the video piece that is being shown in the news. I guess the real truth will all come out at some point, and the "news" will still be guilty of sensationalism.

Great read. Thanks! Pretty much heard the same thing from my sister who is a flight attendant.

Since you guys are experts... according to NYT the CEO admitted the flight was NOT oversold. Does the denied boarding rules still apply?

In Tuesday's New York Times story on the fracas, United's CEO acknowledged, this was not technically an overbooked flight. And the reason for that equivocation is also clear. The four airline employees who needed the seats, presented themselves to the gate agent after the flight was boarded. Further, they were not fare-paying passengers, therefore not "booked."

[txwhitetail]

Some of these guys must work for the media the way they are playing up this guys "beating"...

Maybe they've never seen a real "beating".

[Ironman]

Some of these guys must work for the media the way they are playing up this guys "beating"...

Maybe they've never seen a real "beating".

Lol! I get a bloody lip sometimes just holding one of the grand babies.

[txwhitetail]

Lol! I get a bloody lip sometimes just holding one of the grand babies.

I would sue! Your civil liberties have been trampled !

[MBV77]

Figured they would of dropped the Dr. prefix after the guy got caught trading drugs for gay sex. I'm really surprised there aren't more Black Lives Matter supporters around here. Let's put the blame on everyone except the person that is to blame. And we'll blame everyone basing the situation off of incomplete and skewed facts.


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[RodinaRanč]

Some of these guys must work for the media the way they are playing up this guys "beating"...

Maybe they've never seen a real "beating".

Lol yeah & living in glass houses...principaled in deer lease &_____ethics...but a grown *** man throws a tantrum because he feels like it & is in violation of a contract he entered into freely & they burn up a keyboard in his defense....any wagers on when we'll see the 1st go fund me link these guys create for'm?

[Man]

Ok my first post on this thread and almost a million mile member of Untited. Dude didn't act like an adult in the situation at hand. .and there are those types, But I think United needs to rethink they're policy once it comes down to this situation. That is all. (Drops phone)

[LWC]

Lol yeah & living in glass houses...principaled in deer lease &_____ethics...but a grown *** man throws a tantrum because he feels like it & is in violation of a contract he entered into freely & they burn up a keyboard in his defense....any wagers on when we'll see the 1st go fund me link these guys create for'm?

Contract lawyer is back. I thought United violated their contract by not following protocol. Don't they have to provide a written explanation to the bumped passenger- Before Boarding?

[RodinaRanč]

Contract lawyer is back. I thought United violated their contract by not following protocol. Don't they have to provide a written explanation to the bumped passenger- Before Boarding?

Lol no lawyer...just knowledgeable in what i engage in..you know...what grown *** adults should be.

To my knowledge...they do not...i know there is some documentation that suggests they do...but when bumped...i (nor any peers/employees i know of) in 20 yrs of business travel have EVER been provided documentation, asked to sign documentation or anything else besides being verbally informed; the exception would be years ago accepting written vouchers for flights, meals, hotels, change of carrier, etc (pre-electronic voucher days)..course...never threw a tantrum either as most i know are informed of the risk they take...before they take it

In some instances the overbooking was never "caught" until a passenger is seated & another passenger shows up with a boarding pass for the exact same seat or a passenger has a boarding pass for a seat that doesn't exist...as i said previously...this ususally occurs when assets are swapped out b/c of maintenance issues shortly before flight time & the alternative asset has a different seat configuration than the "planned" asset that seats were sold on/for

practical fact is...because of the contractual language one agrees to when purchasing a flight...the only real recourse/oppty one has for compensation is maintenace related issues...weather, air traffic, critters on the runway, ice, et.al...you're SOL & it's simply the joys of air travel

[MBV77]

Passenger forcible removed from flight

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[tgridley]

I've been quite surprised as well reading this thread...

I don't think they are anti police, there comes a time when you have to stand up to what you believe is right. I have a million miles flying and I have never read the contract before or after buying a ticket. They may be right in being able to ask you to leave, however, if someone puts his hands on me and provokes me, I too would have become irate. I may have been arrested but rest assured I would stand for what I believe is right. Sometime you just don't do as your told, especially when you paid your fare and are already seated. Sometimes you have to be a man and take the good with the bad.

[tgridley]

I will say, some of the jokes and cartoons posted are pretty funny and seeing the one of Negan made me laugh out loud.

[LWC]

Lol no lawyer...just knowledgeable in what i engage in..you know...what grown *** adults should be.

To my knowledge...they do not...i know there is some documentation that suggests they do...but when bumped...i (nor any peers/employees i know of) in 20 yrs of business travel have EVER been provided documentation, asked to sign documentation or anything else besides being verbally informed; the exception would be years ago accepting written vouchers for flights, meals, hotels, change of carrier, etc (pre-electronic voucher days)..course...never threw a tantrum either as most i know are informed of the risk they take...before they take it

In some instances the overbooking was never "caught" until a passenger is seated & another passenger shows up with a boarding pass for the exact same seat...as i said previously...this ususally occurs when assets are swapped out b/c of maintenance issues shortly before flight time & the alternative asset has a different seat configuration than the "planned" asset that seats were sold

Lol, just giving you a hard time. But I'm not sure that most know they can be bumped- involuntarily. I've flown a couple dozen times over the years and had not heard that or read the contract. I've seen the airlines ask for volunteers and offer incentives. But never force someone to take the offer

[RodinaRanč]

Lol, just giving you a hard time. But I'm not sure that most know they can be bumped- involuntarily. I've flown a couple dozen times over the years and had not heard that or read the contract. I've seen the airlines ask for volunteers and offer incentives. But never force someone to take the offer

Bumping is a last resort & most times people will take what's offered...if there's a special event going on in the destination city...the offer is usually higher...airlines are not out to make folks miserable....but they are out to be profitable...As big as most are...almost all have a bean counter running a PnL on each flight...the business is that cut throat/competitive