Message for the NeverTrumpers

[BrianL]

SO, if they decide not to vote for Trump, but for whatever reason didn't get to the polls to vote for Hillary, would that be considered a vote for Trump?

[Joshua Flournoy]

Your vote will count for Hillary? [emoji42]

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Why? I'm not voting for Hillary.

Josh
I could really use your support in helping me make America great again. You do want American to be great again...don't you? I love Ohio and the great, great people there. You have a great governor too. I'm thinking about buying a farm there.

Donald, get back on Twitter, you're wasting your time here.

This point has been brought up already, but being that we have an electoral college, it's not really true that not voting for Trump is a vote for Hilary. Texas should easily go to Trump. If Texas somehow ends up being a close race, Trump is probably screwed nationwide. So, when Trump wins Texas, he gets all the delegates, so the nevertrumpers votes don't matter.

Now, I certainly respect the folks that say "I'm a republican, and I will vote republican no matter what, even if the person running isn't who I would choose first." That's a fine philosophy to have.

Another way to think about it, and my personal view is that:
#1 - Texas is going to Trump by a fairly wide margin, so Trump losing my vote isn't going to matter. (I know that if 1 million people had that view and switched their vote to Hillary, it could swing the state to Hillary, and blah, blah, blah. I don't think there's any possibility that will happen, and I would think polling numbers would show that close to election time. If polling showed it to be a tight race, then maybe I would switch my vote to Trump).

#2 I feel like the republican party as a whole has screwed up this election and really been screwing around for the last 8 years. So, I would like to use my vote to send a message to the republican party. I think the best way to do that is to vote for someone else. If Trump does a little worse in Texas than predicted, and Hillary and Gary Johnson do a little better than predicted, maybe, just maybe the republican party leadership will think, "dang we are losing ground here, maybe next election we should make sure we get a candidate who isn't such a baffoon."

I'm sure my vote won't make any difference, but everyone who says not voting for Trump is a vote for Hillary is not looking at the big picture, in Texas anyway. Now if you live in a true battleground state, then your vote definitely counts.

That's just my thoughts on it anyway

OMG, why would you do that? Why would you introduce facts into this discussion, there's no need for that!

If Texas ends up being close, not only will Trump lose to Hillary nationwide, it would likely be a landslide.

[Mike D]

Who makes the laws in this country? Who appoints Justices to the Supreme Court?



The President is not the end all..........by far.

And what has Congress done to stop Obama and his agenda?

[Mex. Bowhunter]

Why? I'm not voting for Hillary.



Donald, get back on Twitter, you're wasting your time here.



OMG, why would you do that? Why would you introduce facts into this discussion, there's no need for that!

If Texas ends up being close, not only will Trump lose to Hillary nationwide, it would likely be a landslide.

Bill will still let you sit on his lap for all your effort

[Joshua Flournoy]

And what has Congress done to stop Obama and his agenda?

Not nearly enough. Do you think they'll do a better job stopping the Liberal agenda of their "republican" President Trump?

[Joshua Flournoy]

Bill will still let you sit on his lap for all your effort

So, you don't have an answer for why not voting for either Donald or Hillary is an automatic vote for Hillary?

That's what I figured.

[stickerpatch59]

If I vote third party then THAT is who I vote for. Not voting for Trump does NOT mean I am voting for Hillary.

ever heard of Ross Perot?

[gwaldrop59]

I am not thrilled with Trump but when I compare him to Hillary it is an easy choice.

[bone]

If I vote third party then THAT is who I vote for. Not voting for Trump does NOT mean I am voting for Hillary.

So please tell me who you think has a shot to win besides Trump or Hillary. May as well not vote at all that would be just as useful.

[stickerpatch59]

So please tell me who you think has a shot to win besides Trump or Hillary. May as well not vote at all that would be just as useful.

X-1000

[Joshua Flournoy]

So please tell me who you think has a shot to win besides Trump or Hillary. May as well not vote at all that would be just as useful.

Sorry to tell you, but sometimes doing the right thing doesn't always equal instant gratification. You do the right thing because it's the right thing. My kids shouldn't obey me because I promise them a cookie if they do. They should obey me because it's the right thing to do.

Doing the Right thing doesn't always equal an immediate win.

[BoneDigger]

So please tell me who you think has a shot to win besides Trump or Hillary. May as well not vote at all that would be just as useful.

So, I should only vote for someone who has a shot to win? Why is that? Let's say Trump says another really stupid thing and his numbers tank. Afterwards he has no chance of winning. Will you vote for Hillary only because she is the only one with a chance to win? I doubt it. You'll still vote for Trump. So, why should I only vote for someone with a chance to win?

Everyone keeps harping on "throwing your vote away." To me, voting for someone I despise is throwing my vote away.

[Neck]

Trump is polling even with Hillary and some polls have him above her. Romney was 10 points behind Obama at this same point in time 4 years ago. Let's go Trump! Been doubted from the get go but have made the nay sayers eat crow this entire journey. I really wanted Cruz but now I'm 100% behind Trump.

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[TexZ71]

So, you don't have an answer for why not voting for either Donald or Hillary is an automatic vote for Hillary?

That's what I figured.

Your location says you live in Ohio, is that correct?

[Joshua Flournoy]

Trump is polling even with Hillary and some polls have him above her. Romney was 10 points behind Obama at this same point in time 4 years ago. Let's go Trump! Been doubted from the get go but have made the nay sayers eat crow this entire journey. I really wanted Cruz but now I'm 100% behind Trump.

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Really? How many has he been even with her in compared to the number in which she's clearly ahead of him?