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    #61
    The general dissatisfaction with DC has led to the current delegate counts (as shown by Trump's lead). Cruz wants people to believe he is an outsider, but again the total delegate count shows otherwise. People also look at the super-pacs supporting him and that may actually cause people to believe he is just another Washington politician.

    As a "disruptor" in the Senate, Cruz created a lot of noise (and shut down the gub't for a little while). His voting record (conservative) is also extremely favorable to many (minus TPP). Then again, he is only a first timer there. Remember what happend last time when we elected a first term senator........(BO)

    I think Cruz could've done a lot better in this race if he wouldn't have alienated so many voters earlier. These next few primaries will probably set him back in the delegate count quite a bit.

    California will decide whether Trump gets 1237.

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      #62
      Originally posted by texaggie17 View Post
      The general dissatisfaction with DC has led to the current delegate counts (as shown by Trump's lead). Cruz wants people to believe he is an outsider, but again the total delegate count shows otherwise. People also look at the super-pacs supporting him and that may actually cause people to believe he is just another Washington politician.

      As a "disruptor" in the Senate, Cruz created a lot of noise (and shut down the gub't for a little while). His voting record (conservative) is also extremely favorable to many (minus TPP). Then again, he is only a first timer there. Remember what happend last time when we elected a first term senator........(BO)

      I think Cruz could've done a lot better in this race if he wouldn't have alienated so many voters earlier. These next few primaries will probably set him back in the delegate count quite a bit.

      California will decide whether Trump gets 1237.
      OK, so is Cruz an entrenched Washington establishment politician, or is he a freshman Senator? You can't have it both ways. You can dislike him and not support him for any reason you want, but at least have a well-thought out and consistent reason.

      By the way, Trump has alienated FAR more voters than Cruz has. Heck, Trump has alienated considerably more voters than Hillary Clinton has. Every poll indicates that more people have unfavorable views of him than of any other candidate. You may like him, and that's fine, but that doesn't change the fact that Trump has completely and permanently alienated a majority of voters all across the country. He will certainly lose the general election if he ends up with the nomination. Cruz might lose if he is the nominee, but he and Hillary are virtually tied in the polls (within the margin of error either way). Trump is behind double digits, and he has been all along. His numbers are worse now than they have been in the past, actually.

      Hillary's numbers will begin to fall once the general campaign starts and the Republican candidate starts debating with her and hammering her with millions of dollars worth of ads. But Trump is so far behind and has so many skeletons in the closet that will come out once the media turns on him in the general election, he will not be able to make up the distance. A horrible person and candidate like Hillary will still be able to beat him, even in a year when any real Republican would otherwise win. That's how bad Trump is and how much he has alienated everyone other than his core supporters.

      The media has been out to get Cruz ever since he first set foot in the Senate. If there was anything they could do to destroy him, they would have already done it. They are all on the Trump train right now for two reasons. 1) ratings; and 2) they know he is Hillary's best chance of winning the election. They are propping him up during this primary, just like they did with Romney and McCain before. And, just like they did with Romney and McCain, the moment the convention is over, if Trump is the Republican nominee, they will turn on him with a vengence. He will cry about how terrible they are, and he'll start attacking them back - and that will play right into their hand. It will make him look like a pathetic and vindictive egomaniac, which will be supported by all the terrible stories about him and his past that will suddenly be the driver of the media's ratings for the general election cycle. Those stories are already out there, but the media isn't airing them yet. They're waiting for the best time to accomplish their two goals: ratings and getting a Democrat elected. They're afraid of Cruz, because they know they don't have any real ammo to use against him, and he has a good chance of beating Hillary. Trump has no chance.

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        #63
        Originally posted by Shane View Post
        By the way, Trump has alienated FAR more voters than Cruz has. Heck, Trump has alienated considerably more voters than Hillary Clinton has. Every poll indicates that more people have unfavorable views of him than of any other candidate.
        Polls lie.
        How else would Trump have 50% more delegates than Cruz does?
        People hate Trump so much they will vote for him over Cruz.
        Makes no sense if you ask me.

        60% of the voters did not choose Trump as their first pick.
        But, 70% of voters did not choose Cruz as their first pick.

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          #64
          Originally posted by texansfan View Post
          Polls lie.
          How else would Trump have 50% more delegates than Cruz does?
          People hate Trump so much they will vote for him over Cruz.
          Makes no sense if you ask me.

          60% of the voters did not choose Trump as their first pick.
          But, 70% of voters did not choose Cruz as their first pick.
          Trump does better in a 10-person race. He doesn't do nearly as well in a 2-person race. Just the facts. You can spin it however you want and continue to hope, but a large majority of voters absolutely detest Donald Trump, wouldn't trust him at all, and wouldn't vote for him for dog catcher. He's gonna lose, one way or another. Hopefully it'll happen in the primary/convention. That's the only way we have a prayer of beating Hillary in the general.

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            #65
            It is true that you can know a lot about a man by who his enemies are.
            Who are Ted Cruz's enemies?

            1) Everyone on the left
            2) Corporatists and all manner of influence peddling crony-capitalists and lobbyists
            3) All but a handful of the entrenched republicans in the senate
            4) The media

            I put the opposition by these groups on the plus side of his ledger.

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              #66
              Originally posted by Shane View Post
              Trump does better in a 10-person race. He doesn't do nearly as well in a 2-person race. Just the facts. You can spin it however you want and continue to hope, but a large majority of voters absolutely detest Donald Trump, wouldn't trust him at all, and wouldn't vote for him for dog catcher. He's gonna lose, one way or another. Hopefully it'll happen in the primary/convention. That's the only way we have a prayer of beating Hillary in the general.
              What's the scorecard since there have only been 3-4 people in the race?
              March 15 - April 15 delegate count has Trump in the lead by a WIDE margin.

              We'll see what happens tonight tho.

              You say all these people hate Trump so much, but the fact remains that Trump has been pulling more votes than Cruz.
              Who cares if there were 50 people in the race.
              More people liked and voted for Trump than they did Cruz.
              What's so hard to understand?

              And you're trying to spin it.
              Forget polls.
              The only thing that counts is the OFFICIAL BALLOT BOX results.
              Nothing else.
              And by that measure.
              Cruz is losing.

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                #67
                Originally posted by jerp View Post
                It is true that you can know a lot about a man by who his enemies are.
                Who are Ted Cruz's enemies?

                1) Everyone on the left
                2) Corporatists and all manner of influence peddling crony-capitalists and lobbyists
                3) All but a handful of the entrenched republicans in the senate
                4) The media

                I put the opposition by these groups on the plus side of his ledger.
                Did you see Sen. Peter King (R-NY) comment about Cruz this morning?

                King, of course, is one of the most liberal RINO establishment Republican's in Washington. He said this morning that he hates Ted Cruz, and he would probably swallow cianide if Cruz gets the nomination.

                That's definitely another check in the plus column for Cruz, as far as I'm concerned.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by texansfan View Post
                  What's the scorecard since there have only been 3-4 people in the race?
                  March 15 - April 15 delegate count has Trump in the lead by a WIDE margin.

                  We'll see what happens tonight tho.

                  You say all these people hate Trump so much, but the fact remains that Trump has been pulling more votes than Cruz.
                  Who cares if there were 50 people in the race.
                  More people liked and voted for Trump than they did Cruz.
                  What's so hard to understand?

                  And you're trying to spin it.
                  Forget polls.
                  The only thing that counts is the OFFICIAL BALLOT BOX results.
                  Nothing else.
                  And by that measure.
                  Cruz is losing.
                  We'll see who the delegates at the convention vote for. Trump isn't going to get to 1,237 before then, and his delegate count will drop like a rock with each round of voting at the convention. You forget....in the primary, DELEGATE votes are all that matter.

                  And the popular vote numbers for Trump are still what they have always been. As more people have dropped out of the race, his numbers have stayed pretty much the same.

                  Also, you have to think a little further ahead and look at the general election. The 2-person matchup poll numbers tell that story - and it's an ugly one for Trump. I'm not spinning anything. I'm just pointing out the reality. You don't have to like it, but it's still the reality.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by jerp View Post
                    It is true that you can know a lot about a man by who his enemies are.
                    Who are Ted Cruz's enemies?

                    1) Everyone on the left
                    2) Corporatists and all manner of influence peddling crony-capitalists and lobbyists
                    3) All but a handful of the entrenched republicans in the senate
                    4) The media

                    I put the opposition by these groups on the plus side of his ledger.
                    Those Keystone Pipeline, Exxon and Goldman Sachs Corporatists and other lobbyists can't wait for Cruz to be crowned.
                    They all are coming to collect on their investments.
                    How bout the Koch brothers as well.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Shane View Post
                      We'll see who the delegates at the convention vote for. Trump isn't going to get to 1,237 before then, and his delegate count will drop like a rock with each round of voting at the convention. You forget....in the primary, DELEGATE votes are all that matter.

                      And the popular vote numbers for Trump are still what they have always been. As more people have dropped out of the race, his numbers have stayed pretty much the same.

                      Also, you have to think a little further ahead and look at the general election. The 2-person matchup poll numbers tell that story - and it's an ugly one for Trump. I'm not spinning anything. I'm just pointing out the reality. You don't have to like it, but it's still the reality.
                      You're trying to convince someone that doesn't want to be convinced, Shane.

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                        #71
                        Originally posted by Shane View Post
                        We'll see who the delegates at the convention vote for. Trump isn't going to get to 1,237 before then, and his delegate count will drop like a rock with each round of voting at the convention. You forget....in the primary, DELEGATE votes are all that matter.

                        And the popular vote numbers for Trump are still what they have always been. As more people have dropped out of the race, his numbers have stayed pretty much the same.

                        Also, you have to think a little further ahead and look at the general election. The 2-person matchup poll numbers tell that story - and it's an ugly one for Trump. I'm not spinning anything. I'm just pointing out the reality. You don't have to like it, but it's still the reality.
                        You already know how this is going to go.
                        1. No one will have 1,237 going to Cleveland
                        2. They'll pass 1 or 2 rounds of votes with no one getting 1,237
                        3. On the 3rd or 4th go-round Cruz will have amassed enough votes for 1,237 and be crowned.

                        Cruz is the better politician as evidenced by his "Colorado Crimes"

                        Trump doesn't stand a chance when it's open voting season in Cleveland.
                        Kasich is there to make noise by rattling his sabres but everyone knows he carries dull blades.

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                          #72
                          Originally posted by Be10dwn View Post
                          You're trying to convince someone that doesn't want to be convinced, Shane.

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                          I don't need convincing.
                          I already know how and understand how all of this will play out.
                          Cruz will be the nominee.

                          I'm more curious as who is going to be VP

                          Cruz/Allen West
                          Cruz/Romney
                          Cruz/Fiorna (for the woman vote)

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                            #73
                            Originally posted by Shane View Post
                            Did you see Sen. Peter King (R-NY) comment about Cruz this morning?

                            King, of course, is one of the most liberal RINO establishment Republican's in Washington. He said this morning that he hates Ted Cruz, and he would probably swallow cianide if Cruz gets the nomination.

                            That's definitely another check in the plus column for Cruz, as far as I'm concerned.
                            Amazing, isn't it? The more shrill and unhinged people like King and McConnell get, the more convinced I become that Cruz is the man for the job.

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                              #74
                              Originally posted by Be10dwn View Post
                              You're trying to convince someone that doesn't want to be convinced, Shane.

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                              I don't have any expectation of convincing. But you're right. There is none so blind as he who will not see.

                              This is certainly the most insane political campaign season I've ever seen. Hopefully, I'll never see another one that will top it in my lifetime! What a deal.

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                                #75
                                Originally posted by Shane View Post
                                I don't have any expectation of convincing. But you're right. There is none so blind as he who will not see.

                                This is certainly the most insane political campaign season I've ever seen. Hopefully, I'll never see another one that will top it in my lifetime! What a deal.
                                I'm pretty much done with it until november.

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