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Originally posted by TxNurse View PostAnother smear article from a far left source quoted by a TBH member. Much like the one about Cruz's multiple affairs--which the original poster never apologized for posting.
The job of the solicitor general is much the same as a public defender. They have the same obligation to defend the law passed by the legislature the best they can just as a public defender has to defend someone who is obviously guilty.
I would be more concerned with knowing who the stupid legislators were who wasted the time and resources to pass the law.
There were many(Cruz fans)on here ready to burn that fella at the stake well before the facts emerged..
Funny how that works..
I said it was a shake down from day 1....... It was..
I wouldn't be one bit surprised if Cruz wasn't behind that whole fiasco.
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Originally posted by Bayouboy View PostNo sense of humor? Some people are taking this Cruz/Trump stuff way too serious. They are probably kicked back, smoking big cigars, and texting each other as everyday Joe's and Jane's sweat and argue.
This thing was probably decided months ago. Wag the dog.
But, thanks for the lesson in politics 101.
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Originally posted by Artos View PostLook, I know you don't like Cruz, but you cannot claim that the folks of this country that are fed up with politicians on both sides that have screwed this country up, as those siding up with Trump...while the rest of us with Cruz as only blaming democraps. That is a false & inaccurate statement.
You are correct that I do not like Cruz. I do not like Trump either but I like Cruz even less. I am trying to find ways to like him. He is obviously extremely intelligent and very driven. I am just having a very hard time getting past I perceive as political sleaziness every time I listen to him speak.
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Originally posted by ttechdallas View PostYou may have interpreted my statement that way, but that is not what I meant. I was just trying to draw a general distinction between those who want solutions to the country's problems and those who want conservative solutions to the country's problems. To me, it seems like those who favor the former are more likely to support Trump.
You are correct that I do not like Cruz. I do not like Trump either but I like Cruz even less. I am trying to find ways to like him. He is obviously extremely intelligent and very driven. I am just having a very hard time getting past I perceive as political sleaziness every time I listen to him speak.
As far as your opinion of Cruz, I understand that his speaking style is different/odd, and that can certainly cause people to become distracted away from what he is actually saying and doing. On the other hand, you can look at Obama in 2007 when he was first running for President. Many people could not get enough of his style or of his speeches, and they became distracted away from what he was actually saying and doing. I would suggest that, while it would be great for a President to have an appealing style, what truly matters is what he actually does - not what he says or how he says it. What does he really believe in? His actions are a far better indicator of that than any campaign speech or any particular speaking style. It's hard to argue (if you're honest) that Ted Cruz's actions have not shown that he is committed to the Constitution and smaller, less intrusive and abusive government. It's easy to criticize his style, but his actions are what matter.
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Originally posted by Shane View PostHow many of our nation's current problems can be solved by another big government liberal/socialist idea? The solutions to just about every problem we have that could possibly be helped by politicians or government in some way are all constitutional conservative solutions. More big government liberalism/socialism would only make things worse. Compromise with the liberals/socialists will only give us worse results a little bit slower. It won't make anything better. The only way to solve the government-caused problems is to get the government back in line with the Constitution, which would result in LESS government meddling in our every day lives. The more government does, the worse things get for the citizens.
As far as your opinion of Cruz, I understand that his speaking style is different/odd, and that can certainly cause people to become distracted away from what he is actually saying and doing. On the other hand, you can look at Obama in 2007 when he was first running for President. Many people could not get enough of his style or of his speeches, and they became distracted away from what he was actually saying and doing. I would suggest that, while it would be great for a President to have an appealing style, what truly matters is what he actually does - not what he says or how he says it. What does he really believe in? His actions are a far better indicator of that than any campaign speech or any particular speaking style. It's hard to argue (if you're honest) that Ted Cruz's actions have not shown that he is committed to the Constitution and smaller, less intrusive and abusive government. It's easy to criticize his style, but his actions are what matter.
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Much has been made of the fact that while they all have hard core supporters, overall "likeability" ratings for Hillary, Trump and Cruz are equally dismal. Of the three, I think Cruz has the best chance of improving his image and turning some people that currently don't like him. Clinton and "The Donald" have been in the public eye for so long, opinions about them are set and unlikely to change. People who don't like Ted because he is conservative will not change either but we have to remember there is a sizeable chunk of the electorate who don't vote based on a well thought-out political philosophy. They vote on other things - like how a candidate makes them feel. If you have seen Ted Cruz's appearances in the last week on Kimmel, Good Morning America, CNN, etc you can see his campaign's attempt to "humanize" him to viewers that only know him as the wild-eyed radical that his opponents have painted him to be. It may work - it may not - but of the three he is the only one who has a chance of changing public opinion in his favor.
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Originally posted by Michael View PostIt amazes me the number of people that have labeled Cruz "sleazy", and when pressed it's simply because they think he looks and/or sounds sleazy.Originally posted by jerp View PostMuch has been made of the fact that while they all have hard core supporters, overall "likeability" ratings for Hillary, Trump and Cruz are equally dismal. Of the three, I think Cruz has the best chance of improving his image and turning some people that currently don't like him. Clinton and "The Donald" have been in the public eye for so long, opinions about them are set and unlikely to change. People who don't like Ted because he is conservative will not change either but we have to remember there is a sizeable chunk of the electorate who don't vote based on a well thought-out political philosophy. They vote on other things - like how a candidate makes them feel. If you have seen Ted Cruz's appearances in the last week on Kimmel, Good Morning America, CNN, etc you can see his campaign's attempt to "humanize" him to viewers that only know him as the wild-eyed radical that his opponents have painted him to be. It may work - it may not - but of the three he is the only one who has a chance of changing public opinion in his favor.
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Originally posted by Michael View PostIt amazes me the number of people that have labeled Cruz "sleazy", and when pressed it's simply because they think he looks and/or sounds sleazy.
What's amazing is how many Texans voted for him Just because he was from Texas....
Look and who is endorsing him. Tells me all I need to know.Last edited by PondPopper; 04-19-2016, 10:02 AM.
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Originally posted by ttaxidermy View PostSo what he did to Ben Carson wasn't sleazy? Ben sure thinks so.
What's amazing is how many Texans voted for him Just because he was from Texas....
Look and who is endorsing him. Tells me all I need to know.
Most texans voted for him for the same reason they voted for him in 2014; stop so many laws from being passe, fight expansion of obamacare, delay liberal scotus appointments, help decrease big govt spending.
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Originally posted by ttaxidermy View PostSo what he did to Ben Carson wasn't sleazy? Ben sure thinks so.
What's amazing is how many Texans voted for him Just because he was from Texas....
Look and who is endorsing him. Tells me all I need to know.
In hindsight, the Cruz campaign jumped the gun in trying to solicit Carson voters after it was reported that Carson was likely suspending his campaign. Even acknowledging it as a mistake (by his campaign) I would hardly call it "sleazy", especially in light of what most of the other candidates have done before or since (including Carson).
Too many people have lost (or never had) objectivity in this process and only choose to parrot what the media (or their candidate) tells them their perception should be.
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I don't think Cruz can do it. I think his choppy/rehearsed speaches and senate record just scream four more years of division and petty political posturing conducted by the same two parties who've got us in the shape we're in. Folks are tired of the same old crap, and the Donald's lead over Cruz tells that tale.
We had several neighbors over to eat at deer camp last weekend and got to talking about the presidential candidates after a few beers. Out of 15 voting people, not one wanted Cruz. There was a general dissatisfaction between us all that neither party had a candidate that people like us were excited about supporting. Admittedly, half of the guys there are farmers that mostly vote democratic. We decided that anyone with good sense wouldn't want to be a politician in the first place!
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Originally posted by Razrbk89 View PostI don't think Cruz can do it. I think his choppy/rehearsed speaches and senate record just scream four more years of division and petty political posturing conducted by the same two parties who've got us in the shape we're in. Folks are tired of the same old crap, and the Donald's lead over Cruz tells that tale.
We had several neighbors over to eat at deer camp last weekend and got to talking about the presidential candidates after a few beers. Out of 15 voting people, not one wanted Cruz. There was a general dissatisfaction between us all that neither party had a candidate that people like us were excited about supporting. Admittedly, half of the guys there are farmers that mostly vote democratic. We decided that anyone with good sense wouldn't want to be a politician in the first place!
I dont want them together, because when they ARE in unison, we get omnibus bills hidden with special projects and both sides blaming each other for inadequacies that will have to be addressed in another omnibus. The three dems will be guaranteed to do it. You may or may not get what you want out of trump. Cruz is the only one in this field willing to tell the big spenders, amnesty seekers and cry babies like King making stupid statements "no."
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Originally posted by Tommyh View PostComsidering our current choices are three democrats, a conservative, and a moderate, NONE of these choices will bring either side together.
I dont want them together, because when they ARE in unison, we get omnibus bills hidden with special projects and both sides blaming each other for inadequacies that will have to be addressed in another omnibus. The three dems will be guaranteed to do it. You may or may not get what you want out of trump. Cruz is the only one in this field willing to tell the big spenders, amnesty seekers and cry babies like King making stupid statements "no."
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