Coming home from work I was listening to Fox News and a town hall with Bernie Sanders. How is an increase in 18 or 19 trillion dollars to our deficit a good thing? Free college education at public colleges- is that just tuition and books or will it eventually lead to room and board, and then of course you have to have a way to get there. I see this as a way for folks that could barely get thru high school to avoid having to go to work. If the government is providing this then of course they will determine what the curriculum will be and how much to pay professors. I have no idea how that would affect college athletics. Medicare for everyone? That means the govenment controls your health care from cradle to grave. Will that mean that as we enter our "golden years" Uncle Sam will determine what procedures are cost effective for us to have? That tells me that doctors will not be able to determine what they can make- the govenment will. Oh, and back to that free college education...if we are short on doctors for certain medical fields will they then determine if you want to be a doctor what specialty you will go into. I do agree that something needs to be done about the obscene profits that pharmaceutical companies make. I don't know how he thinks he is going to tax Wall Street companies to pay for all of this, not to mention raising the tax rate of the rich to like 90%. And I think everyone has lost track of what the minimum wage was intended for when it was enacted- it was never intended to be a living wage. Raise the minimum wage to $15/hr and see what happens to the economy. He scares the devil out of me.
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Bernie Sanders is going to kill this country, given a chance
If, and that's an if the size of hillary's brighter side, he wins, we will see the max exodus of large corps relocating their HQ to lower taxing countries. But the only thing standing in his way, for at least two years, is Congress. Then we have the midterm elections, and it probably wouldn't go the dems way with him in place, even for just two years. -
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I'll just leave this here.Last edited by systemnt; 03-07-2016, 09:01 PM.Comment
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I actually like Bernie. When a candidate is honest, say unlike Hillary, I think it is actually good to understand their positions and arguments. It seems to me that there are a lot of positions that people on the right and left get locked into that are not as reasoned as they think. But they are liberal or conservative and that is enough.
Does Medicare for everyone really mean the government controls your healthcare? No more than it is controlled by greedy insurance companies today. On free public college, I get the rationale and am not sure it is a bad thing. As for minimum wage, if it had kept with inflation, it would be $11 at the low end. There are issues as well where I think we dig into conservative positions that may not be reasonable.
As for Wall Street and big business, I actually think Bernie nails it. Which is exactly why the same thing that is going on over here in the GOP with the "establishment" is going on over there with their "establishment". The Democratic party is bought and paid for and will do anything to make sure Bernie doesn't get elected. They want someone they can control.Comment
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^uh...no.Comment
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What strings are attached with his free college proposal?Comment
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The same strings that are attached to anything that's "free", leading right to the people who are ACTUALLY paying for it.Originally posted by Charles View PostComment
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Yep. I was hoping for more specifics. For example, Britain offers free college. Citizens take a test when they're sixteen. The top 2 percentile receive free college.Originally posted by Ham Slammer View Post
Too many people hear what is being said but don't listen to whats being said.Comment
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I'll admit I try not to pay attention to the two people trying to win the handout war currently, but I'm pretty sure I've heard the phrase "free college for everyone" in reference to Bernie. knowig the way he thinks though, "everyone" will probably not include the children of the "well off". (The people actually paying for it)Originally posted by Charles View PostComment
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It isn't always about who is paying or not paying though. Sometimes you have to look at who is profiting. A lot of not for profit schools make a heckuva profit. Then you have guaranteed student loan program which is a racket and Sallie Mae which is notoriously corrupt and profitable.
I am not saying it should be free because I don't know. I just think a lot of times we dismiss ideas out of hand just because of where they came from.
In Texas, they could probably fund free community college tuition for the entire state just by taxing the Texas Longhorn Football Corporation.Comment
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Good Lord...make it stop!!Comment
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Free college for everyone will solve nothing. Now is the price of tuition an issue or the ability to receive financial aid? Yes, but Bernie won't solve it. The problem is there is a generation of kids coming out of school who have learned nothing. They do not want to work for anything, criticism is looked at as a direct insult and they believe they should come out of college with an executive position making 100k a year. This is not even a political issue, its a parenting and societal issue. You want to know why immigration is an issue, it's not because they come over and take jobs. They accept work that my generation refuses to do because they believe they are above it. This is just the tip of the iceberg. Giving things to people for free who do not deserve them is just enabling the fundamental issue with this country. If you want something, work for it. Great things are born from struggle not from floating through and taking hand-outs.Comment
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Have you ever personally visited another country living under socialism? If so did you speak to the people while you where there? What was your thoughts on the place post visit upon your return?Originally posted by ttechdallas View PostComment
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We've had free college for a long time. It's called the GI Bill.Comment
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