Bernie Sanders is going to kill this country, given a chance

[texansfan]

Free is always paid for by someone else and free is an option that inherently doesn't last. I'm tired of paying for someone else's welfare onset by their poor decisions in life. If you've never contributed to the system by being a productive citizen, making good life choices and then something happens to you, out of your control I have no issue giving you a hand up. I'm sick of being made to give hand outs to those tin pans screaming for more when they've never sweat, bled or wept from their hard labor trying to carve their own path. Enough is enough.

What about when the govt bailed out the auto industry and big banks?
What about Farmer's Welfare?
Govt subsidized flood insurance?
FEMA checks?
Boeing and Caterpillar get HUGE welfare checks/subsidies from the govt.

Thoughts?

[Arrow chucker]

What about free corn?

[Ætheling]

What about free corn?

Where do I get this free corn?

Clean, feeder quality?

[systemnt]

Where do I get this free corn?

Clean, feeder quality?

Sanders is 90 years old... it'll be creamed.

[Playa]

What about when the govt bailed out the auto industry and big banks?
What about Farmer's Welfare?
Govt subsidized flood insurance?
FEMA checks?
Boeing and Caterpillar get HUGE welfare checks/subsidies from the govt.

Thoughts?

No thoughts, I agree. I also agree that we already educate beyond what is necessary for minimal education. What gets me more than the subsidies you listed above is the foreign aid, US taxpayer money, that benefits non us citizens

[txjustin]

How do you figure compulsory K-12 education is OK but K-16 education is SOCIALISM?
They are BOTH socialist items.
Taking my tax dollars and forcing me to pay for things I choose not to use.
Or what if I was born sterile and couldn't have kids then I'd have no choice in the matter.

Do you live in Texas?
I live in Houston and if I lived in a $300k house I would pay $6,000 per year for a school system I won't use at all.
I'm paying for Lupita and Demontrayvious's kids to be educated.

How is that not socialism?
How is K12 free education any different than K-16 free education?

If I don't enroll my kids in SOME sort of school, HISD, ROBS or home school program, the govt will try to throw me in jail for child endangerment/neglect
How is that land of the free?
Govt forcing me to do something against my will.

Obamacare is the same thing.
Just as we don't want dumb people walking around effecting our conversations, we don't want sick people walking around effecting our health.

Your argument is weak and you need to do better.

Bingo. WEll said.

[systemnt]

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[Tommyh]

Not sure how anyone could vote for this guy. I think our country is severely lacking in understanding socialism and it's failure to raise the standard of living where/when tried.

theyre spinning it by calling it "democratic socialism" and saying that it is different.

[TxNurse]

Another thing many (if not most) do not understand, is that with socialism nothing you have really belongs to you. Everything is owned by the government and is only being loaned to you. That is what redistribution is all about.

[ttechdallas]

Another thing many (if not most) do not understand, is that with socialism nothing you have really belongs to you. Everything is owned by the government and is only being loaned to you. That is what redistribution is all about.

I am just not seeing the leap that suggests we should adopt socialism or that anyone is promoting socialism. Not even Bernie. And that seems to be the de facto argument against any thing promoted or suggested by the left.

[texansfan]

Another thing many (if not most) do not understand, is that with socialism nothing you have really belongs to you. Everything is owned by the government and is only being loaned to you. That is what redistribution is all about.

Like my house in Houston or 40 acres of land in Marshall

No mortgages, but let me miss 3 years of property taxes and both properties gets seized by the govt.
I'm merely renting both these places.

[XBowHunter]

Like my house in Houston or 40 acres of land in Marshall

No mortgages, but let me miss 3 years of property taxes and both properties gets seized by the govt.
I'm merely renting both these places.

lol, pay your taxes and relax...

[TxNurse]

I am just not seeing the leap that suggests we should adopt socialism or that anyone is promoting socialism. Not even Bernie. And that seems to be the de facto argument against any thing promoted or suggested by the left.

One little clue might be that Bernie is an official member of the SOCIALIST Party.

[ttechdallas]

One little clue might be that Bernie is an official member of the SOCIALIST Party.

Actually, he is not. There is no one single socialist party in the US. There seem to be a number of them of which the most notable are the Green Party, Socialist Party USA and Socialist Party of America - of which Bernie is not a member of any of them. Nor do any of them officially support him. Apparently they are similar to those of us in the Republican party who don't like candidates who are not conservative enough. Curiously, they equate democratic socialists with democrats. Go figure.

Beyond this however, it just seems like we would be much better of as a country if we considered ideas and solutions on the merit of the arguments rather than simply dismissing them based on the source or the misguided assumption that it would make us socialist.

[Tommyh]

Actually, he is not. There is no one single socialist party in the US. There seem to be a number of them of which the most notable are the Green Party, Socialist Party USA and Socialist Party of America - of which Bernie is not a member of any of them. Nor do any of them officially support him. Apparently they are similar to those of us in the Republican party who don't like candidates who are not conservative enough. Curiously, they equate democratic socialists with democrats. Go figure.

Beyond this however, it just seems like we would be much better of as a country if we considered ideas and solutions on the merit of the arguments rather than simply dismissing them based on the source or the misguided assumption that it would make us socialist.

merit or not, someone has to pay for it.