What could they be preparing for?

[PondPopper]

They must be expecting to ruffle some feathers. Slipped in right before the election.

https://youtu.be/ZZ3_f_iaBVE?si=KpayrHDxtfaStcpu

[Hills of Texas]

I saw this right after it posted. Kinda makes you wonder doesn't it

[muzzlebrake]

Been done already. Kent State university while I was in Vietnam with 4th infantry

[monsterspike]

Everything is falling into place.

Don't worry guys, Trump will be the one wielding these powers.

[Pedernal]

If soldiers are placed in policing duties they need the authority to use deadly force just as any other LEO.

[tvc184]

They already have the authority to deploy and use force.

At Kent State it was the National Guard which was sent in by the governor and they have state police powers. A few days later and not nearly as well known was Jackson State but it was the state police instead of the state National Guard. I am assuming that at Jackson State, since they were black students who were killed protesting, it did not get nearly the attention.

The document in question in the video refers to protecting critical infrastructure, government locations, personnel, etc.

I am assuming that this is inferring that the Posse Comitatus Act is in question. Under Posse Comitatus the regular military (not National Guard) is not supposed to be called to do state law enforcement.

That does not apply to the military being called out to put down an insurrection or open rebellion under the Insurrection Act. So the president or Secretary of Defense can authorize the use of the regular military under current law for a rebellion.

The president surely doesn’t need the authorization mentioned in the video of a document signed by an Assistant Secretary of Defense. That is like having a police chief or sheriff ask a patrol officer permission to do something.

[glen]

TVC - not sure how you do it but you stay current on about every legal aspect from local to Fed. Thanks it clears a lot up for a lot of us

[PondPopper]

They already have the authority to deploy and use force.

At Kent State it was the National Guard which was sent in by the governor and they have state police powers. A few days later and not nearly as well known was Jackson State but it was the state police instead of the state National Guard. I am assuming that at Jackson State, since they were black students who were killed protesting, it did not get nearly the attention.

The document in question in the video refers to protecting critical infrastructure, government locations, personnel, etc.

I am assuming that this is inferring that the Posse Comitatus Act is in question. Under Posse Comitatus the regular military (not National Guard) is not supposed to be called to do state law enforcement.

That does not apply to the military being called out to put down an insurrection or open rebellion under the Insurrection Act. So the president or Secretary of Defense can authorize the use of the regular military under current law for a rebellion.

The president surely doesn’t need the authorization mentioned in the video of a document signed by an Assistant Secretary of Defense. That is like having a police chief or sheriff ask a patrol officer permission to do something.

https://lawenforcementtoday.com/department-of-defense-secretly-reauthorizes-bill-that-would-allow-military-intervention-domestically-and-adds-ability-to-use-deadly-physical-force

Probably nothing. Just paranoia!!!
Im sure their intentions are good.

[tvc184]

https://lawenforcementtoday.com/department-of-defense-secretly-reauthorizes-bill-that-would-allow-military-intervention-domestically-and-adds-ability-to-use-deadly-physical-force

Probably nothing. Just paranoia!!!
Im sure their intentions are good.

On the second page of the article that you cited it highlights (c). It is interesting that they omitted the last sentence highlight of the very section of their “proof” where it says: “Such use of force must be in accordance with DDOD 5610.56…”.

So the section cited (c) doesn’t justify the use of force. It said that the use of force is justified in accordance with 5610.56.

Interesting that they didn’t highlight that little tidbit which actually tells where deadly force is authorized? It is fixated only on the term deadly force without looking at another page for justification which is required.

So let’s play our favorite game, “what if”.

What if this is all a prelude to quell an uprising in case the election goes against Trump?

So the Dems are preparing for not just protests which the National Guard can take care of but for an actual armed insurrection or uprising.

Does the president really need a “Deputy” Secretary of Defense to give permission because that’s who signed this. An assistant to an assistant to the president said that it was okay!!

The Insurrection Act authorizes the use of the military to put down a revolt. What else do they need?

When the troops take the oath of enlistment or oath of office if officers, there is that little tidbit of defending of … “against all enemies, foreign and domestic”, do we really think that only means an invasion by another sovereign country? Where does the “domestic” come into play?

Or to cut to the chase, if we believe in the deep state which can steal an election and then put down any uprising by unlawful force, do we then believe that this deep state which threatens our country would depend on the re-authorization from a deputy to a cabinet member? All while ignoring the existing Insurrection Act…..

Let’s remember the attempted integration of Central High School in Little Rock, Arkansas. The Arkansas governor used the National Guard to stop the Supreme Court decision (Brown v. Board of Education) on segregation being unconstitutional. The National Guard then actually blocked Black students from entering the school. President Eisenhower stepped in and with the stroke of a pen, federalized the entire Arkansas National Guard. He then sent in the 101st Airborne Division to stand as civilian law enforcement under the Insurrection Act. In stopping this uprising (remember, not a huge affair with riots but only protests at a single high school), Eisenhower used federal troops around Posse Comitatus.

Again, do we really think that the federal government and the president as Commander in Chief will not act unless they have permission of a deputy staff member?

Sorry but this seems like a sky is falling scenario.

I don’t trust the government intentions either but I also don’t think this is what we need to worry about.

[tvc184]

TVC - not sure how you do it but you stay current on about every legal aspect from local to Fed. Thanks it clears a lot up for a lot of us

Thanks.

I read a lot. Like really a lot…..

I still teach Arrest, Search and Seizure (voluntary as with no pay) at the police academy which you know is mostly constitutional law. I read current case law and pending cases, on occasion listen to oral arguments like in front of the Supreme Court and many of the upcoming legislative session bills submitted and follow them through the process.

Maybe oddly, I almost never watch any news programs or read any political sites. I do read or watch what other people post like on TBH and then if it seems interesting, do my own research without looking at left or right opinions.

I have a boring life after retirement.

People may not like my opinion but it isn’t plagiarized. 😎

[rolylane6]

Thanks.

I read a lot. Like really a lot…..

I still teach Arrest, Search and Seizure (voluntary as with no pay) at the police academy which you know is mostly constitutional law. I read current case law and pending cases, on occasion listen to oral arguments like in front of the Supreme Court and many of the upcoming legislative session bills submitted and follow them through the process.

Maybe oddly, I almost never watch any news programs or read any political sites. I do read or watch what other people post like on TBH and then if it seems interesting, do my own research without looking at left or right opinions.

I have a boring life after retirement.

People may not like my opinion but it isn’t plagiarized. 😎

"Read a lot"? Wholly molly I can’t imagine how much you must read to retain the knowledge you have regarding law and govermental policies. And lets not even begin to talk about the interest you must have in it to invest that time to read, understand, comprehend, and interpret it. I would literally die from boredom in 10 min trying to do what you do. What I appreciate the most about you is how easy you can make it understandable and interesting to a guy like me, who is bored to tears by trying to read and understand a single paragraph from a law book.

You keep being you TVC. We need you buddy!

[Death from Above]

Thanks.

I read a lot. Like really a lot…..

I still teach Arrest, Search and Seizure (voluntary as with no pay) at the police academy which you know is mostly constitutional law. I read current case law and pending cases, on occasion listen to oral arguments like in front of the Supreme Court and many of the upcoming legislative session bills submitted and follow them through the process.

Maybe oddly, I almost never watch any news programs or read any political sites. I do read or watch what other people post like on TBH and then if it seems interesting, do my own research without looking at left or right opinions.

I have a boring life after retirement.

People may not like my opinion but it isn’t plagiarized. 😎

on case law...any place in particular that a young man in LE should be reading?

He is 2 years in on patrol and just made swat...always saying "case law" and would like to point him to places he may not be reading?

[awry]

Where is Ghost Goblin when ya need him?

[rolylane6]

Where is Ghost Goblin when ya need him?

Probably buckled up somewhere...

[rolylane6]

Thanks.

I read a lot. Like really a lot…..

I still teach Arrest, Search and Seizure (voluntary as with no pay) at the police academy which you know is mostly constitutional law. I read current case law and pending cases, on occasion listen to oral arguments like in front of the Supreme Court and many of the upcoming legislative session bills submitted and follow them through the process.

Maybe oddly, I almost never watch any news programs or read any political sites. I do read or watch what other people post like on TBH and then if it seems interesting, do my own research without looking at left or right opinions.

I have a boring life after retirement.

People may not like my opinion but it isn’t plagiarized. 😎

TVC, what's your thoughts on this?

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DBghJ51ujw9/?igsh=MXY5NXpjOTk3cnlmbw==