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    #16
    Originally posted by PondPopper View Post

    I don't need to see the video. WTC 7 did implode for no good reason. I saw it live, the moment it happened, and immediately knew we had been lied too AGAIN.
    The towers were not far away from WTC 7. On September 11, 2001, the structure was substantially damaged by debris when the nearby North Tower (1 World Trade Center) collapsed.​ What do you think happened? In your opinion, why did the government lie to us?

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      #17
      Originally posted by RiverRat1 View Post

      I agree, in general.
      But I do not agree people who find a conspiracy in everything the government does/says are crazy. They have been proven a zillion times to lie/cover up far far more than telling the truth. So the crazy ones are ones who believe them.

      It's also becoming clear that "normal" people are idiots. Do you remember covid BS?


      Back on track. Where's this video? I have heard about it before. Why start a thread like this (or Tucker a video) without showing the video?
      I do, and I didn't get the jab. My wife nearly quit her job or got fired over it (medical field). Like I said, yes some things I do believe are a conspiracy but not every single headline that comes out. It gets old and the ones that push that nonsense seem mentally ill to me.

      Yes there is propaganda on both sides and no one knows what to believe these days. Everyone is believing something they read on on the internet, if you didn't see it with your own eyes how do you know anymore?

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        #18
        Originally posted by Huntergirl723 View Post

        The towers were not far away from WTC 7. On September 11, 2001, the structure was substantially damaged by debris when the nearby North Tower (1 World Trade Center) collapsed.​ What do you think happened? In your opinion, why did the government lie to us?
        Why did they lie???
        When do they not lie??

        They lied to us (set a narrative) to cover up what really took place.
        They do it all the time.

        Nothing about 9/11 makes any sense IF you dig into it. The problem is most never research anything.
        They take what our corrupt government says and what the corrupt MSM says as gospel and forget it ever happened.
        No doubt it’s the easiest path to take.. Maybe I should try it.

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          #19
          Originally posted by bowhunterhelm View Post

          I do, and I didn't get the jab. My wife nearly quit her job or got fired over it (medical field). Like I said, yes some things I do believe are a conspiracy but not every single headline that comes out. It gets old and the ones that push that nonsense seem mentally ill to me.

          Yes there is propaganda on both sides and no one knows what to believe these days. Everyone is believing something they read on on the internet, if you didn't see it with your own eyes how do you know anymore?
          Every single headline??
          Now your just exaggerating.
          And HOW DO YOU KNOW??
          You know what you know because they told you exactly what you where to know..
          You choose to just believe what your told by corrupt politicians and a communist media but I’m the crazy person!!
          Last edited by PondPopper; 06-10-2024, 04:19 PM.

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            #20
            Originally posted by PondPopper View Post

            Every single headline??
            Now your just exaggerating.
            And HOW DO YOU KNOW??
            You know what you know because they told you exactly what you where to know..
            You choose to just believe what your told by corrupt politicians and a communist media but I’m the crazy person!!
            I don't know, that's just it. I'm not afraid to admit it.

            Conspiracy theorist don't know either but will argue to their death as if they were there and were first hand witnesses to the event with hard facts and evidence to back it up and all they did was read it somewhere on the internet. They choose to believe some alternative news source that's in it for the money, it's purely entertainment and they don't believe half of what they are putting out themselves. Conspiracy theorist then push their crazy story on everyone else and call you a sheep if you don't fall in line with them. It's coming from both sides and I'm somewhere in the middle.

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              #21
              Originally posted by PondPopper View Post

              Why did they lie???
              When do they not lie??

              They lied to us (set a narrative) to cover up what really took place.
              They do it all the time.

              Nothing about 9/11 makes any sense IF you dig into it. The problem is most never research anything.
              They take what our corrupt government says and what the corrupt MSM says as gospel and forget it ever happened.
              No doubt it’s the easiest path to take.. Maybe I should try it.
              Okay, let me explain that for the most part, I do not trust our government most of the time. While I did get the first vax because I was considered 'essential', I never went back to get another and I am a believer in Ivermectin for a few things, including Covid.
              Now, regarding 9/11, you never answered my question. Why did they lie or more specifically, what were they covering up? Do you know or are you just saying they had to cover something up?

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                #22
                Man, if you aren't going to acknowledge there is a likelihood #7 went down as a controlled explosion & just let the msm dictate their wisdom, I would start praying for discernment.

                I question everything but #7 stinks...they told us went down cuz of office fires.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by PondPopper View Post

                  Why did they lie???
                  When do they not lie??

                  They lied to us (set a narrative) to cover up what really took place.
                  They do it all the time.

                  Nothing about 9/11 makes any sense IF you dig into it. The problem is most never research anything.
                  They take what our corrupt government says and what the corrupt MSM says as gospel and forget it ever happened.
                  No doubt it’s the easiest path to take.. Maybe I should try it.
                  Since you said most never research anything, what are you using to "research"? Reading the internet? What's your trusted source for information? Just curious, I don't have one.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by bowhunterhelm View Post

                    I don't know, that's just it. I'm not afraid to admit it.

                    Conspiracy theorist don't know either but will argue to their death as if they were there and were first hand witnesses to the event with hard facts and evidence to back it up and all they did was read it somewhere on the internet. They choose to believe some alternative news source that's in it for the money, it's purely entertainment and they don't believe half of what they are putting out themselves. Conspiracy theorist then push their crazy story on everyone else and call you a sheep if you don't fall in line with them. It's coming from both sides and I'm somewhere in the middle.

                    I get what you're saying. I look at it this way though. Take random things the government has told you in the past. If you take the provable things you'll see most of the time they flat out lied. So if their track record on provable things (over time like covid) shows them to be liars I choose to default to calling them liars on the unproveable things.

                    Also - There are so many freaking things they lie about for no good reason that I can see. Boggles the mind. So to say they must not be lying because I can't say a good reason why they would lie doesn't hold water these days.

                    I think the people in charge started the Q bullcrap.. Make anyone who questions things a crazy CT with a tin foil hat. They made it so people lump in submarines going to pedophile island with anyone with a brain that watched #7 fall for no reason.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by bowhunterhelm View Post

                      Since you said most never research anything, what are you using to "research"? Reading the internet? What's your trusted source for information? Just curious, I don't have one.
                      I laid this out a couple years ago (maybe longer). Simply put, do this on the next big event (of any kind)
                      1. Watch as much raw footage as possible WITHOUT listening to reporters etc.
                      2. Ask yourself questions
                      3. Formulate theories
                      4. Ask yourself odds of all sorts of things. Like what are the odds the video cameras were not working in that casino or jail cell? You MUST do these things before the excuses start rolling.
                      5. Be prepared to be in shock at how obviously full of BS the story turns out to be.

                      Try it.
                      Each event is different. Like Epstein killing himself versus Vegas shooting. But you should be able to think up easy questions. The second the Vegas shooting looked fishy I just said to myself it's ALL BS and lies if casino video cameras just happened to not be working. And I saw the note in a early picture the shooter left. So I also said huge red flag when that note goes away. Just examples like that where data is gone should tell you it's all fishy.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by RiverRat1 View Post

                        I laid this out a couple years ago (maybe longer). Simply put, do this on the next big event (of any kind)
                        1. Watch as much raw footage as possible WITHOUT listening to reporters etc.
                        2. Ask yourself questions
                        3. Formulate theories
                        4. Ask yourself odds of all sorts of things. Like what are the odds the video cameras were not working in that casino or jail cell? You MUST do these things before the excuses start rolling.
                        5. Be prepared to be in shock at how obviously full of BS the story turns out to be.

                        Try it.
                        Each event is different. Like Epstein killing himself versus Vegas shooting. But you should be able to think up easy questions. The second the Vegas shooting looked fishy I just said to myself it's ALL BS and lies if casino video cameras just happened to not be working. And I saw the note in a early picture the shooter left. So I also said huge red flag when that note goes away. Just examples like that where data is gone should tell you it's all fishy.
                        I'm a detective by trade, video cameras not working is not a shock to me. LOL I kid I kid, but I run into that on a daily basis.

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                          #27
                          Vegas has more cameras per square foot than any other city in the us & we saw 3 vids...totally legit.

                          The msm didn't even ask about it.

                          clown show

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Artos View Post
                            Vegas has more cameras per square foot than any other city in the us & we saw 3 vids...totally legit.

                            The msm didn't even ask about it.

                            clown show
                            All of the videos posted the night of the shooting and the day after, by victims THAT WERE THERE BEING SHOT AT, where all scrubbed because many of those videos were blowing the narrative, that was immediately being pushed, completely out of the water, and the feds couldn’t have that. Many videos I personally watched were gone within hours..

                            There is only one reason that would happen.

                            The list of total suspicious skullduggery surrounding this incident is as long as my leg.. It’s mind boggling that anyone bought their BS, but most did.




                            Last edited by PondPopper; 06-10-2024, 07:30 PM.

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                              #29
                              Whatever you do, don't bring up the witnesses that died...like I said, there is no real media anymore.

                              Most have no clue...if it wasn't reported at 5:30 it didn't happen.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by bowhunterhelm View Post

                                I'm a detective by trade, video cameras not working is not a shock to me. LOL I kid I kid, but I run into that on a daily basis.
                                I bet you don't in casinos

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