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    All area bonds pass

    All school bonds in our area passed, Tioga, Whitesboro and Grayson College. Voter turnout was abysmal, I guess people don’t know, or care, that this is a tax increase. Of course next year at tax time they will be screaming and blaming appraisal district, which is big part, but oblivious that lion share of tax is local ISD and they didn’t go vote against it.

    I vote in every election, they all matter to me. Whitesboro ISD athletic complex $18 million passed by 7 votes.

    #2
    These outrageous sports complexes are one of the things that really get me. I don't begrudge the kids having decent sports fields, gyms etc. But it has gotten ridiculous.

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      #3
      Originally posted by BowhunterB View Post
      These outrageous sports complexes are one of the things that really get me. I don't begrudge the kids having decent sports fields, gyms etc. But it has gotten ridiculous.
      State law made them break out the stadiums in a bond of their own and that's the one that passed by 7 votes, the other bond passed by larger margin. Prosper last bond the regular ISD bond passed but Stadium bond $60 million.....failed. That total bond package was near $1 Billion, a school ISD bond of close to $1 billion !!!! All of it gets me, massive admin buildings, and ridiculously fancy high schools, I never had AC in school till high school. Daughter went to Prosper High and it had a food court and a gymnasium nicer than 90% of Universities, it was insane as almost all of them are. School administrators building monuments to themselves with your tax dollars and people won't go vote.

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        #4
        Originally posted by BowhunterB View Post
        These outrageous sports complexes are one of the things that really get me. I don't begrudge the kids having decent sports fields, gyms etc. But it has gotten ridiculous.
        Same here. Beyond stupid what they are wasting tax dollars on. Gotta up the last district. Plain stupid on kids sports.

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          #5
          I don't think it matters any more for several reasons

          1. Numbers are so big people can't comprehend.
          2. People are just stupid and/or ignorant (this needs to be points 2,3,4,5,6 or more)
          3. Every single city, County, State, and even the Nation is maxed out in debt. Pretty much world wide. So everyone will be screwed all together at once. It's not like the "bad" ones will go bankrupt and others not. They'll shuffle money/debt and let it all go down at once so there's no one to blame.

          4. Inflation will eat up a lot of it. Yes that means we the people are about to be more screwed. Most under 30 or even 40 won't be hurt bad enough to give a crap. The few who saved money their entire lives will b!tch and moan and take the shaft. Inflation just starting IMO. We are repeating the great inflation era. Read this https://www.federalreservehistory.or...reat-inflation

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            #6
            I was bitching about this 25 years ago, but apparently I was alone.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Drycreek3189 View Post
              I was bitching about this 25 years ago, but apparently I was alone.
              No. We just didn't know we was kin at the time. And lived in different areas.

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                #8
                I haven't voted for any school bond increases, ever, and they still passed. I guess I'm not the only one who votes. Angleton school district has closed down older schools so they could build newer, bigger ones. OK, we are growing like a weed but don't shut down a good building just so you can build a new, bigger one!

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                  #9
                  The state now makes it say on the ballot "this is a tax increase" but by that time they have been told "this will not increase your taxes" and it is final line on the item, and have no idea that a "bond" is their school district going into debt to pay and the tax payer is on the hook to pay for the expenses and the interest. I wish they would remove "bond package" and make it say "tax increase" on the ballot.....WISD wants a $120 million tax increase......not a "bond".....

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by RiverRat1 View Post
                    I don't think it matters any more for several reasons

                    1. Numbers are so big people can't comprehend.
                    2. People are just stupid and/or ignorant (this needs to be points 2,3,4,5,6 or more)
                    3. Every single city, County, State, and even the Nation is maxed out in debt. Pretty much world wide. So everyone will be screwed all together at once. It's not like the "bad" ones will go bankrupt and others not. They'll shuffle money/debt and let it all go down at once so there's no one to blame.

                    4. Inflation will eat up a lot of it. Yes that means we the people are about to be more screwed. Most under 30 or even 40 won't be hurt bad enough to give a crap. The few who saved money their entire lives will b!tch and moan and take the shaft. Inflation just starting IMO. We are repeating the great inflation era. Read this https://www.federalreservehistory.or...reat-inflation
                    5. Many people voting “yes” don’t own property and aren’t directly paying taxes.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by friscopaint View Post

                      State law made them break out the stadiums in a bond of their own and that's the one that passed by 7 votes, the other bond passed by larger margin. Prosper last bond the regular ISD bond passed but Stadium bond $60 million.....failed. That total bond package was near $1 Billion, a school ISD bond of close to $1 billion !!!! All of it gets me, massive admin buildings, and ridiculously fancy high schools, I never had AC in school till high school. Daughter went to Prosper High and it had a food court and a gymnasium nicer than 90% of Universities, it was insane as almost all of them are. School administrators building monuments to themselves with your tax dollars and people won't go vote.
                      Wow. Amazing 8 conservatives couldn't be bothered to show up and vote it down.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by WItoTX View Post

                        Wow. Amazing 8 conservatives couldn't be bothered to show up and vote it down.
                        Tax payers.

                        I don’t think a liberal with a nice home and whose taxes will go up $5,000 a year would likely have voted for it.

                        If there was a way to check, I would not be surprised to find that 75% of votes in favor of the bond issue were from people who don’t own property or none of any value.

                        Bond issue for people who don’t pay property tax: Do you want to have the best of everything for your children and not only not have to pay for it, force your neighbor to pay all of the bills?

                        The receivers outnumbered the givers.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by WItoTX View Post

                          Wow. Amazing 8 conservatives couldn't be bothered to show up and vote it down.
                          never mentioned conservatives, pretty sure all parties are taxed maybe some more than others....renters are the one's that will really take it up the back side....and likely voted for it since they aren't "property owners"......

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                            #14
                            Most every government fed and local doesn't haven't a revenue problem, they have a spending problem. I heard Anna voted no on their new stadium.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by tvc184 View Post

                              Tax payers.

                              I don’t think a liberal with a nice home and whose taxes will go up $5,000 a year would likely have voted for it.

                              If there was a way to check, I would not be surprised to find that 75% of votes in favor of the bond issue were from people who don’t own property or none of any value.

                              Bond issue for people who don’t pay property tax: Do you want to have the best of everything for your children and not only not have to pay for it, force your neighbor to pay all of the bills?

                              The receivers outnumbered the givers.
                              Absolutely true. It’s also true that this economic “model” is finite and unsustainable. By the time the receivers figure this out, the boat will have sunk and everyone will go down with it.

                              Greed is an ugly thing.

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