Am I the only one who thinks this supreme court presidential immunity business is actually a setup orchestrated by the dems to protect Biden in the future ?
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Originally posted by imyomama View PostAm I the only one who thinks this supreme court presidential immunity business is actually a setup orchestrated by the dems to protect Biden in the future ?
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chess game .. look at moves 2,3,4 ... looks like protecting Trump ... ends up protecting Biden ,Obama, Clinton, etc ... Trump doesn't need this .. all the cases are falling apart.. however, they need protection now for what's to come should they lose in november..
smells like an insurance policy for the puppet masters ...
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Originally posted by imyomama View Postchess game .. look at moves 2,3,4 ... looks like protecting Trump ... ends up protecting Biden ,Obama, Clinton, etc ... Trump doesn't need this .. all the cases are falling apart.. however, they need protection now for what's to come should they lose in november..
smells like an insurance policy for the puppet masters ...
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Originally posted by imyomama View Postchess game .. look at moves 2,3,4 ... looks like protecting Trump ... ends up protecting Biden ,Obama, Clinton, etc ... Trump doesn't need this .. all the cases are falling apart.. however, they need protection now for what's to come should they lose in november..
smells like an insurance policy for the puppet masters ...
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Originally posted by imyomama View PostAm I the only one who thinks this supreme court presidential immunity business is actually a setup orchestrated by the dems to protect Biden in the future ?
Keep in mind, police have immunity, cities have immunity, County Commissioners have immunity. Literally all of the government has immunity.
So.
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Originally posted by WItoTX View Post
This sure give a lot of credit to the left for having the foresightedness to think of it.
Keep in mind, police have immunity, cities have immunity, County Commissioners have immunity. Literally all of the government has immunity.
So.
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Originally posted by bullets13 View Post
none of those immunities are limitless, fwiw.
as to whether this is calculated, certainly it could be.
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The the case probably will come down to official acts immunity and what is an official act.
When Biden sent airstrikes into Syria and Iraq because of the deaths of three soldiers, that was almost certainly an official act as commander in chief.
When Bill Clinton was having his Oval Officer tryst with Monica Lewinsky, that was (probably) not an official act.
So generally speaking or as it is believed today, Biden could not be held criminally responsible after he leaves office for the airstrikes because that’s within his official authority ask commander in chief and to protect American interests. What however, would it be if the same strikes were sent to the same locations but the president knew that his rival in the upcoming election was there at the time on a fact finding mission? Would that then be an official act?
If some kind of criminal charges came out of Clinton’s sexual escapades while he was the president…. would he have criminal immunity due to his office?
That is the question before SCOTUS. Listening to some of the oral arguments, the justices came up with several hypothetical situations like killing a political rival or what if this or what if that, would that be covered?
I think it may come down to some very narrow ruling on what is official and what is not.
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Originally posted by tvc184 View PostThe the case probably will come down to official acts immunity and what is an official act.
When Biden sent airstrikes into Syria and Iraq because of the deaths of three soldiers, that was almost certainly an official act as commander in chief.
When Bill Clinton was having his Oval Officer tryst with Monica Lewinsky, that was (probably) not an official act.
So generally speaking or as it is believed today, Biden could not be held criminally responsible after he leaves office for the airstrikes because that’s within his official authority ask commander in chief and to protect American interests. What however, would it be if the same strikes were sent to the same locations but the president knew that his rival in the upcoming election was there at the time on a fact finding mission? Would that then be an official act?
If some kind of criminal charges came out of Clinton’s sexual escapades while he was the president…. would he have criminal immunity due to his office?
That is the question before SCOTUS. Listening to some of the oral arguments, the justices came up with several hypothetical situations like killing a political rival or what if this or what if that, would that be covered?
I think it may come down to some very narrow ruling on what is official and what is not.
It's kinda like who gets to say you are to crazy to own a firearm.
It looks like whoever is in power gets to make the call..... Banana Republic.
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Originally posted by stickerpatch59 View Post
But WHO will determine what is official and unofficial?
It's kinda like who gets to say you are to crazy to own a firearm.
It looks like whoever is in power gets to make the call..... Banana Republic.
The Supreme Court just sets rules for the courts.
The Supreme Court for example says that if you’re in custody of the police, you must be given a constitutional warning. Who determines whether that warning as claimed by the police, was official under the rules or unofficial and unlawful?
You could make that argument on every case. The right to argue a case in court doesn’t make a country a banana republic.
It would be a banana republic if there were no courts or rubber stamp courts.
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