I just saw that the ACLU is actually representing the NRA in a case where the NY government was discouraging companies from doing business with the NRA. How’s that for strange bedfellows? Also the article says that several years ago the SC declared the Carry Guard insurance the NRA promoted as unlawful. I don’t remember hearing that. Did that ruling include similar policies offered to CCL holders? Anyone know?
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Scotus ruled against Bribem Admin today. Legal for Texas LEO to arrest illegals and hold them for deportation or whatever.Comment
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SA mayor is on the local news right now pitching a fit about it. Basically said SA won't be taking any action.Originally posted by muzzlebrake View PostComment
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That was great but not a final ruling. The case is still in the lower courts and the Supreme Court refused to issue an injunction against Texas to stop enforcing it.Originally posted by muzzlebrake View Post
There is a potential and possibly even likely that the Supreme Court in the future will shut down the Texas law but the case has not wound its way through the lower courts and the Supreme Court is temporarily at least, allowing Text to enforce the law.Comment
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The ACLU is big on free speech and this seems to obviously be what NY government restricted.Originally posted by donpablo View Post
The case of the ACLU backing up the NRA is NRA v. Vullo. They had oral arguments a couple of days ago but there is no decision as of yet. I listened to some of it and it didn’t seem to have anything to do with CCL holders per se.
It was about a NY government agency that had authority over the insurance industry. The administrator, Maria Vullo, urged and threatened insurance companies to not deal with the NRA. The basis of that threat was the NY stance that didn’t like NRA’s political stance. Basically, the NRA has a free speech right to promote guns however, NY disagrees with that free speech. NY is using a business leverage to shut up the NRA
The case is not about insurance policies per se under NY law but a violation of free speech in the First Amendment which is likely why the ACLU is involved. The issue before the Supreme Court is whether the state of New York can stop the NRA’s free speech right by threatening/coercing Insurance companies not to do business with them.
Justice Brown Jackson questioned in the oral arguments as to whether a threat to file charges against the insurance companies was actually coercion or just a government suggestion, During her confirmation hearing she could not define a woman, so I guess she has a hard time differentiating between coercion and a suggestion.
The NRA attorney in the arguments brought up the point that a suggestion by government agency would be like, we suggest that people reduce their salt intake or eat more fish to get more Omega 3 fatty acids into your blood stream for a healthier cardiovascular system. Justice Brown Jackson seemed to think that threatening an insurance company was the same as suggesting that people voluntarily use less salt. 🤣Comment
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Ah, ok. So the ability to offer the insurance was not being contended. Ok. That makes more sense.Comment
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Yes. It is a First Amendment free speech issue.Originally posted by donpablo View Post
The NRA has the right to put out their message.
The government of NY says if you (NRA) keep using your right of free speech, we will harm you financially or shut your program down altogether by threatening those companies that do business with you.Comment
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And just like that,… the Fifth Circuit issued a stay, overturning the Supreme Court’s approval of the Texas law. The law is again put on hold.Originally posted by muzzlebrake View Post
Again, the Supreme Court didn’t hear the case and didn’t issue a final ruling. They merely refused to step in and stop Texas for the time being and sent it back down to the lower court to hear the case and submit their findings back to the Supreme Court.
That lower court almost immediately issued an injunction against Texas.Comment
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Guess they like cars getting broken into and/or stolenOriginally posted by justletmein View PostComment
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