Gredos Ibex - Who's been. Have Questions

[JBJTX81]

We are booked for Nov. Should have paid a bit more attention to the scoring system. They use CIC vs SCI. I've never use cm to measure anything in my life.
I'm trying to visualize the differences in size

<205
205-220
220-230
>230

If you shot an Gredos, 1) did your outfiter use CIC, 2) if yes, would you post pictures and scores to give me a better idea between the various classes.

220cm = 86.6"
240cm = 94.5"

What's 8" of horn difference on 5 measurements look like? The pricing says its the difference b/w a 120" and 360" deer!

[NotJose]

I’ve been. Can’t honestly remember the size measurements but I believe mine went Silver. And it was 16 years old and had a unique flair from typical Gredos shape. So looked much bigger I was very happy.




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[Huntingfool]

I do not know my score - just know it was an awesome hunt in Spain - I am looking at my mount over my fireplace as I type - beautiful country for sure

[Landrover]

I did my Greydos and Becite a few years ago. All scoring was done by SCI standards. Probably need to have a serious talk with the outfitter as this is honestly a 1st for me. Maybe they took pity on me as they did not think it could be done with a bow.......lol. Gotta book my Southeastern and Ronda species in 2024!

[JBJTX81]

I did my Greydos and Becite a few years ago. All scoring was done by SCI standards. Probably need to have a serious talk with the outfitter as this is honestly a 1st for me. Maybe they took pity on me as they did not think it could be done with a bow.......lol. Gotta book my Southeastern and Ronda species in 2024!

We started those conversations today. He gave me a brief overview and said he would send more pics/instructions.

Their bronze silver gold track fairly closely to SCI and I truly don't know how much variation is there is in the typical animal.

According to him
Bronze is 205-220 CIC. For SCI its 70-75 6/8. This equates to 200-215 CIC
Sliver is 220-230 CIC. For SCI its 75 7/8 to 81. This equates to 215-230 CIC
Golds is 230+ for CIC. For SCI its 81 1/8 +

Seems like the Silver category is a bit more broad in SCI vs CIC. Other wise they track pretty close. They will also deduct points in CIC if the outside spread is greater or lesser than the length of the beams. So If you shoot one that is very wide or very narrow but then your CIC score will actually be lower than SCI.

Weird stuff - I'm going to have to be very comfortable with all this and we are going to have to get on the same page before we go out.

They other thing that struck me as odd was this was more of a concern for the Gredos than the Beceite. So does that mean has got some amazing concessions with huge Gredos or subpar Beceite hunting grounds.

[diamond10x]

If it was me I would ask horn measurements as far as circumferences and lengths be it in centimeters or inches to go with pictures from everyone whether that be hunters or guides/outfitters.

Something that may also help you is anatomy measurements. Judging pronghorn you use the eye and ears for mass and length, moose you use eye width and ear length to judge antler width, whitetails and mule deer you use ear width to guess antler width. My guess there is a rule of thumb with their eye to horn for mass (circumference) and maybe body length or shoulder height to determine length.

Just some thoughts to help you maybe have an idea to be able to judge on your own to be more confident in what the guide says to shoot.

[ken]

I shot this Gredos Ibex last week. It scored 216. I had a permit for an Ibex up to 210 but the gamekeepers have some latitude on what they allow you to shoot. My goal was just a mature animal with a bow and the one I shot was 15 years old.

As far as what they look like by size, all the mature Ibex looked big to me. The expensive part is if you are being charged a "high scoring trophy fee" you don't know what your animal is going to actually score until it is dead. I had budgeted up to a 210 scoring Ibex, but since I shot a 216 I had to pay $1,200 for the extra 6 points. If I hunt in Spain again I will try to negotiate a cap on the "high scoring trophy fees".

[txtrophy85]

I shot this Gredos Ibex last week. It scored 216. I had a permit for an Ibex up to 210 but the gamekeepers have some latitude on what they allow you to shoot. My goal was just a mature animal with a bow and the one I shot was 15 years old.

As far as what they look like by size, all the mature Ibex looked big to me. The expensive part is if you are being charged a "high scoring trophy fee" you don't know what your animal is going to actually score until it is dead. I had budgeted up to a 210 scoring Ibex, but since I shot a 216 I had to pay $1,200 for the extra 6 points. If I hunt in Spain again I will try to negotiate a cap on the "high scoring trophy fees".

Nice goat!

How easy/difficult was it to take with a bow?

I’ve heard from several people it’s extremely easy to kill one with a rifle

[ken]

It didn't turn out too difficult to take one with a bow. Where they were located was steep boulder fields so it was difficult to get to the ibex. The outfitter I went with likes to do bowhunts in an area that has a lot of human traffic in the form of cattle herders and hikers. In those areas the ibex don't see humans as a threat as long as they are at a distance. So the bowhunting tactic is to stay at a distance until they are in an area conducive for a stalk. In my case they fed until they were at the edge of a ledge. We were able to sneak up under the ledge to 30 yards and wait for the target ibex to feed into an opening in the brush along the ledge.

Difficulty with a rifle would depend on what area you are hunting. Ibex in areas that don't have a lot of human traffic are more afraid of people. In the area I hunted getting into rifle range would be be very easy.

[ken]

Nice goat!

How easy/difficult was it to take with a bow?

I’ve heard from several people it’s extremely easy to kill one with a rifle

It didn't turn out too difficult to take one with a bow. Where they were located was steep boulder fields so it was difficult to get to the ibex. The outfitter I went with likes to do bowhunts in an area that has a lot of human traffic in the form of cattle herders and hikers. In those areas the ibex don't see humans as a threat as long as they are at a distance. So the bowhunting tactic is to stay at a distance until they are in an area conducive for a stalk. In my case they fed until they were at the edge of a ledge. We were able to sneak up under the ledge to 30 yards and wait for the target ibex to feed into an opening in the brush along the ledge.

Difficulty with a rifle would depend on what area you are hunting. Ibex in areas that don't have a lot of human traffic are more afraid of people. In the area I hunted getting into rifle range would be be very easy.