Wolves in Colorado- Current & Future Elk hunters

[Still Hunter]

Sorry if this was already mentioned.

Take a read and Comment. Everyone should try to keep this from happening. seems inevitable, but now is your chance to comment!

https://cpw.state.co.us/Documents/Wolves/DRAFT-CO-Wolf-Plan.pdf

https://engagecpw.org/draft-wolf-plan-comments?tool=survey_tool#tool_tab

[BuckSmasher]

Sorry if this was already mentioned.

Take a read and Comment. Everyone should try to keep this from happening. seems inevitable, but now is your chance to comment!

https://cpw.state.co.us/Documents/Wolves/DRAFT-CO-Wolf-Plan.pdf

https://engagecpw.org/draft-wolf-pla..._tool#tool_tab

I don't believe public comment is gonna help. Wolves in Colorado is most likely gonna be a disaster.

A tightly monitored population of a couple hundred along with lion, bear and coyote control might be a good thing. Everyone gets some of what they want. Don't see it playing out like that.

Glad I don't live in CO. Too bad. It is a beautiful state.

[CEO]

I think wolves is a done deal. Read they are trying to get a ban on mountain lion and bobcat hunting on the ballot next year.

[justhrowit]

I think wolves is a done deal. Read they are trying to get a ban on mountain lion and bobcat hunting on the ballot next year.

Wolves have already come in a taken residence from the surrounding states. Colorado wolf pups have already been confirmed. It's all happening on it's own. Knucklehead CO residences are just going to speed up the inevitable.
Time will tell the impact it'll actually have on the elk and deer populations.

[wytex]

They have already voted to release them. The plan for that release is what is being put out.
They have collared wolves there now, migrants form Wyoming.
They also have folks very mad that we in Wyoming have taken some of their wolves, collared and not, when they crossed the state line.
They plan to release away from state lines so their wolves will be safer from hunters.
Wyoming will try to shoot every wolf we can that crosses the state line, they have no protection in our part of the state, they are predators.

Your comments will likely mean nothing to them, sad but true.

[Mitchell8]

They make cool tshirts

[MadHatter]

Colorado already has established populations....?
We've encountered them several times, even have video of a pack within 150ft of us, howling their azz off.
This is the western slope area.

[DaBears]

If they're not gonna let folks shoot elk around Estes Park, then I suppose wolves are the next best option. Unfortunately, not a good option since wolves don't know or respect boundaries. At this point, I would be surprised if there are not populations in Colorado.

[DaBears]

They have already voted to release them. The plan for that release is what is being put out.
They have collared wolves there now, migrants form Wyoming.
They also have folks very mad that we in Wyoming have taken some of their wolves, collared and not, when they crossed the state line.
They plan to release away from state lines so their wolves will be safer from hunters.
Wyoming will try to shoot every wolf we can that crosses the state line, they have no protection in our part of the state, they are predators.

Your comments will likely mean nothing to them, sad but true.

I'm curious about this. Can you shoot a wolf in WY as long as it is on otherwise huntable land (i.e. outside of Yellowstone)? If the wolves would stay in Yellowstone and the 'thorities won't allow humans to hunt in the park, then I'd say they have their place. That said, maybe not necessary if enough elk migrate out of the park and into hunting areas during hunting season and end up getting taken by humans. In that case, no need for additional predators.

Anyways, I have not followed this issue that closely but I thought wolves were still in the SSS category in Wyoming other than livestock depredation killing.

[talltexasshoote]

My grandparents ranched Colorado between Cortez and Mancos. My grandfather told stories of when he was very young and the ranchers hunted, trapped and killed every canine predator they saw. He said when they started doing that the deer, elk and free range cattle populations flourished. He would literally be turning over in his grave if he knew the people of Colorado now we’re putting them back. I guess it reminds me why I live here now. At least they have the taxes from the legal weed to help them clean up this mess when it blows up.

[friscopaint]

My grandparents ranched Colorado between Cortez and Mancos. My grandfather told stories of when he was very young and the ranchers hunted, trapped and killed every canine predator they saw. He said when they started doing that the deer, elk and free range cattle populations flourished. He would literally be turning over in his grave if he knew the people of Colorado now we’re putting them back. I guess it reminds me why I live here now. At least they have the taxes from the legal weed to help them clean up this mess when it blows up.

Different people there now....they all live in town and doesn't affect them or their latte

[AntlerCollector]

More wolves the better. I need to make a matching recliner




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[jnd1959]

I think the initiative said west of the continental divide (this was so people along the front range wouldn't have to be subject to the mandate the voted for). That being said, I think the front range is a good place to release them. That way they can choose where in western portion of the state they want to reside...or just hunt pets in the Denver suburbs. Colorado is much like Washington (and will be Texas in a few years). The populated areas control the the rural areas. We should change our state constitution to elect senators based on a number of counties rather than population. What is happening in the states is what the founders avoided by setting up per state representation. I know, we're not a union of counties but those of us in rural areas won't have much say if we don't do something now. Don't mean this to be a hijack, ok maybe I do, but needs to be explored. We don't have ballot initiatives but we do have amendments.

Until pets start dying in the urban suburbs, there's nothing that can be done about this other than try to push the release as far east as they can. Come to think of it, there is no prohibition to releasing wolves east of the continental divide. I think that would be my public comment. For every wolf released in the west, one should be released in the east.

[DaBears]

My grandparents ranched Colorado between Cortez and Mancos. My grandfather told stories of when he was very young and the ranchers hunted, trapped and killed every canine predator they saw. He said when they started doing that the deer, elk and free range cattle populations flourished. He would literally be turning over in his grave if he knew the people of Colorado now we’re putting them back. I guess it reminds me why I live here now. At least they have the taxes from the legal weed to help them clean up this mess when it blows up.

That was my grandfather in the Panhandle and probably pretty much every other rancher that tried to scratch out a living in the West. (Agreeing, not being sarcastic) My grandfather all but eliminated rattlesnakes on his place because of the threat to his children and dogs. Coyotes were far less populous then than they are now on my family's portion of his place. It would not surprise me at all if he ever used cyanide to wipe out coyotes and scavengers. Not saying he did, just wouldn't surprise me.

Regarding the taxes on weed, from what I've read (Wall Street Journal or similar source), the promised tax revenue has not come close to being achieved.

When you think about it, the street dealer can sell cheaper weed, because no taxes, than the retail dealer who is supposed to impose taxes. Basic capitalism, and the promised tax windfall never materialized. Some revenue, yes, but nothing near projections.

And it gets worse. The shop owners realizing that they have to compete with lower price product have been known to cut side deals/not report taxable sales. A friend of mine's daughter was working in such a shop in Colorado and almost landed in prison. The state got wind of the owner doing side business, got raided (in spite of being a legal shop) and, from what I recall, he did go to prison. Thankfully, my friend's daughter did not.

[DaBears]

I think the initiative said west of the continental divide (this was so people along the front range wouldn't have to be subject to the mandate the voted for). That being said, I think the front range is a good place to release them. That way they can choose where in western portion of the state they want to reside...or just hunt pets in the Denver suburbs. Colorado is much like Washington (and will be Texas in a few years). The populated areas control the the rural areas. We should change our state constitution to elect senators based on a number of counties rather than population. What is happening in the states is what the founders avoided by setting up per state representation. I know, we're not a union of counties but those of us in rural areas won't have much say if we don't do something now. Don't mean this to be a hijack, ok maybe I do, but needs to be explored. We don't have ballot initiatives but we do have amendments.

Until pets start dying in the urban suburbs, there's nothing that can be done about this other than try to push the release as far east as they can. Come to think of it, there is no prohibition to releasing wolves east of the continental divide. I think that would be my public comment. For every wolf released in the west, one should be released in the east.

I spent a year in Washington not too long ago and you're spot on. The Seattle liberal crazies unfortunately rule and predictably ruin that state.

I was fortunate enough to live and work outside of Seattle and, in spite of being a Texan, felt very much at home there. Well. except for 9 months of rain. My clients were farmers and ranchers and thought very much the same way I do. I genuinely feel sorry for those who are stuck in places like WA, Oregon or Colorado.

I'm back in Texas now and West Coast refugees have been a huge source of business for me in Austin. And, by the way, in my experience, these are good people who understand the foolishness of big state government and have no desire to live in CA/OR/WA, part 2. They just escaped from there. I never bring up state politics or the ruin the Left has brought to the West Coast, but these refugees regularly initiate the topic and express huge gratitude for our state.