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    #61
    Drew there a few times, wasn't impressed by the folks working in their forestry dept once drawn, very anti-hunting. Once NR draw quota went to 6% started looking around elsewhere and when they started requiring you pay for tags up front and wait months for a refund and no refund on the license my draw money went elsewhere.

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      #62
      Originally posted by bossbowman View Post
      Drew there a few times, wasn't impressed by the folks working in their forestry dept once drawn, very anti-hunting. Once NR draw quota went to 6% started looking around elsewhere and when they started requiring you pay for tags up front and wait months for a refund and no refund on the license my draw money went elsewhere.
      That's strange the forest service people would be anti hunting. My experience as been the exact opposite. I love New Mexico's system.

      I have just as much chance as any one else in my pool to draw. If I don't draw, I can buy a land owner tag for ranch only or a unit wide tag...if you are willing to spend the money.

      I think it's much better than Colorado's way over crowded OTC or having to never catch up in preference points on primo unit.

      I drew a Gila tag just last year...so it can happen.

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        #63
        Originally posted by Heath View Post
        I have been pouring over the data in OnX (Toprut). It is a fun research project trying to figure out where you want to play or not play. This will be my 1st year actually applying for anything out West, so I need to figure out what is my actually plan this Fall.
        Good luck. That will be a good TBH Live Hunt.

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          #64
          Originally posted by Heath View Post
          I have been pouring over the data in OnX (Toprut). It is a fun research project trying to figure out where you want to play or not play. This will be my 1st year actually applying for anything out West, so I need to figure out what is my actually plan this Fall.
          It really is a fun part of it! Wait till you draw and then start researching your unit and think, "I can go here, then hike to here" then you get there and so little of it is doable. Lol

          That second part of the research is even more fun

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            #65
            Originally posted by Bulldawg87 View Post
            It really is a fun part of it! Wait till you draw and then start researching your unit and think, "I can go here, then hike to here" then you get there and so little of it is doable. Lol

            That second part of the research is even more fun
            LOL, that's the truth. I'd like to add closed access roads that you swear would be open to that as well.

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              #66
              Originally posted by Bulldawg87 View Post
              It really is a fun part of it! Wait till you draw and then start researching your unit and think, "I can go here, then hike to here" then you get there and so little of it is doable. Lol

              That second part of the research is even more fun

              Both of these quotes are accurate. I find it humorous that guy are so lazy when it comes to the draw and plan. "What unit do I hunt, any tips not spots?" Do the research, listen to pod cast, these guys that do it for a living give away valuable information with picking a unit and planning a hunt.

              If you don't enjoy the game of odds vs value to pick a hunt you're in trouble when it comes to hunt planning. Pointing to a spot on a map and showing up could work out, but you could be staring steep mountains or mesa walls with no way to access your "hunt area". NM mountains aren't as big a CO mountains but they will humble you equally.

              Also if your concerned about the money wait till the last week to apply. There's no reward for applying early just lets them hold your money for longer.
              Last edited by CrownKiller14; 02-01-2023, 10:21 AM.

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                #67
                Originally posted by CrownKiller14 View Post
                Both of these quotes are accurate. I find it humorous that guy are so lazy when it comes to the draw and plan. "What unit do I hunt, any tips not spots?" Do the research, listen to pod cast, these guys that do it for a living give away valuable information with picking a unit and planning a hunt.

                If you don't enjoy the game of odds vs value to pick a hunt you're in trouble when it comes to hunt planning. Pointing to a spot on a map and showing up could work out, but you could be staring steep mountains or mesa walls with no way to access your "hunt area". NM mountains aren't as big a CO mountains but they will humble you equally.

                Also if your concerned about the money wait till the last week to apply. There's no reward for applying early just lets them hold your money for longer.

                Absolutely right. They can be tough, but I like the fact that atleast in the Linlcon / Gila / Cibola....they aren't near at tall. (In general)

                You aren't gonna find elk 1000 ft above you and then them move up another 1000ft like say Colorado.

                Still doesn't mean that are reachable at all however.

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