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    #16
    I thought drawlocks ruined America

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      #17
      It was my understanding LSBA gave into to Xbow changes. It was either Xbows during bow season or it was youth season, WITH GUNS, during archery season.
      Last edited by skeeter; 10-14-2022, 12:57 PM.

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        #18
        Originally posted by skeeter View Post
        It was my understanding LSBA gave into to Xbow changes. It was either Xbows during bow season or it was youth season, WITH GUNS, during archery season.
        Now there’s grown men hunting archery season with guns.

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          #19
          You have five tags on your license. Most of you have a lease or private property to hunt. Tell me how xbows ruined any of it. No…..I don’t shoot an xbow. I had one, but I wouldn’t wag that crossTIE around the woods for anybody !

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            #20
            The LSBA and it’s proponents were very elitist in their attitude towards cross bows and the like. I do believe that was a bigger factor than the actual debate about their use. It rubbed me the wrong way and I was a fairly new bowhunter who bowhunted a bunch. Hate that they took that stance. That was their demise along with it not being tan real well it seemed.

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              #21
              Originally posted by Drycreek3189 View Post
              You have five tags on your license. Most of you have a lease or private property to hunt. Tell me how xbows ruined any of it. No…..I don’t shoot an xbow. I had one, but I wouldn’t wag that crossTIE around the woods for anybody !

              Let me start by saying that I do not claim my opinion is any better than anyone elses and my grandson has killed to train car load of critters with a XBow


              I was an officer in the LSBA when we fought allowing X bows in archery season without a disability. They were legal during general season or with a doctors note.

              At the time I owned a bowhunting ranch and had a very nice range. Before X Bows for a month or so before season most every afternoon my place was covered up with teenagers and young adults shooting their bows and tuning their equipment. My area here in east Texas is very poor hunting and the fact you were allowed to shoot a doe with a bow was a big deal to most folks and it pushed them to get a bow and learn to shoot it.

              When they made x bows legal it removed the incentive to take up archery.
              Why spend all those hours standing out in the heat shooting a bow when you could swing by academy and pick up a x-bow with a scope on it?

              The year after X bows were made legal the amount of teenagers shooting their bows at my range dropped 50%. The next year it was pretty much gone completely.

              Archery has been an important part of my life and I have been fortunate to travel all over the world with my recurve chasing some really cool critters.
              I took up bowhunting to get a chance at killing a doe some 50 years ago. If I could have shot one with a X Bow I might never have taking up archery and missed out on a lot of cool adventures.

              Just One Mans opinion

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                #22
                I was a regional rep for the LSBA when the crossbow battle was going on and honestly, I didn't care either way. Crossbows did not affect my hunting just like compound bows didn't affect stick bow shooters. But I do agree with Buff that a lot of interest was lost in archery when crossbows were allowed. LSBA used to do a lot of good and I haven't been involved in a number of years. Every year they helped schools get set up in NASP, they ran the 3D shooting range for the kids at all 3 TTHA shows and the one I miss the most is the archery range at the TPWD EXPO. They are a good organization that is just kinda run it's course. Hard to keep a state wide org going when everyone is so busy with a million other things.

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                  #23
                  More interest in archery and hunting in general was probably lost to tiktok and video games than xbows. You’re either gonna shoot a bow or you’re not. I like to hunt with handguns and did long before the archery bug bit me in 1979. I took up bowhunting solely because I could hunt deer a month earlier. We all have different reasons for what we do. I see where you’re coming from Buff, but an inanimate object wasn’t the cause, the human was. I didn’t particularly enjoy practicing in 100* heat the two months before season opened either, but I did it in order to make an ethical shot. A couple years ago I lost the ability to hold the pins steady enough to make that shot at anything farther than 20 yards so I put it down. I still miss it. I don’t blame anyone for using an xbow, but I’m not going to the trouble.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Drycreek3189 View Post
                    I took up bowhunting solely because I could hunt deer a month earlier.
                    This is the main reason people take up archery, but this incentive to entice others do the same is being eroded heavily not just by crossbows but other exemptions that allow people to take advantage and hunt the archery season without a bow.

                    Not advocating the banning of crossbows or other exemptions that’ll get this thread whacked if mentioned. TPWD needs to add a true archery season before October. Especially for mid coastal counties where the deer are rutting the beginning of October when the season opens.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Buff View Post
                      Let me start by saying that I do not claim my opinion is any better than anyone elses and my grandson has killed to train car load of critters with a XBow


                      I was an officer in the LSBA when we fought allowing X bows in archery season without a disability. They were legal during general season or with a doctors note.

                      At the time I owned a bowhunting ranch and had a very nice range. Before X Bows for a month or so before season most every afternoon my place was covered up with teenagers and young adults shooting their bows and tuning their equipment. My area here in east Texas is very poor hunting and the fact you were allowed to shoot a doe with a bow was a big deal to most folks and it pushed them to get a bow and learn to shoot it.

                      When they made x bows legal it removed the incentive to take up archery.
                      Why spend all those hours standing out in the heat shooting a bow when you could swing by academy and pick up a x-bow with a scope on it?

                      The year after X bows were made legal the amount of teenagers shooting their bows at my range dropped 50%. The next year it was pretty much gone completely.

                      Archery has been an important part of my life and I have been fortunate to travel all over the world with my recurve chasing some really cool critters.
                      I took up bowhunting to get a chance at killing a doe some 50 years ago. If I could have shot one with a X Bow I might never have taking up archery and missed out on a lot of cool adventures.

                      Just One Mans opinion

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                      Pretty good perspective I can agree with. I have certainly seen a decline in archery. But an increase in hunters overall it seems.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Buff View Post
                        Let me start by saying that I do not claim my opinion is any better than anyone elses and my grandson has killed to train car load of critters with a XBow


                        I was an officer in the LSBA when we fought allowing X bows in archery season without a disability. They were legal during general season or with a doctors note.

                        At the time I owned a bowhunting ranch and had a very nice range. Before X Bows for a month or so before season most every afternoon my place was covered up with teenagers and young adults shooting their bows and tuning their equipment. My area here in east Texas is very poor hunting and the fact you were allowed to shoot a doe with a bow was a big deal to most folks and it pushed them to get a bow and learn to shoot it.

                        When they made x bows legal it removed the incentive to take up archery.
                        Why spend all those hours standing out in the heat shooting a bow when you could swing by academy and pick up a x-bow with a scope on it?

                        The year after X bows were made legal the amount of teenagers shooting their bows at my range dropped 50%. The next year it was pretty much gone completely.

                        Archery has been an important part of my life and I have been fortunate to travel all over the world with my recurve chasing some really cool critters.
                        I took up bowhunting to get a chance at killing a doe some 50 years ago. If I could have shot one with a X Bow I might never have taking up archery and missed out on a lot of cool adventures.

                        Just One Mans opinion

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                        And a opinion worth listening to!!!

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by skeeter View Post
                          It was my understanding LSBA gave into to Xbow changes. It was either Xbows during bow season or it was youth season, WITH GUNS, during archery season.
                          LSBA didn't give in to anything. I was VP then and testified at the committee hearing over this at the capital on behalf of LSBA. It was a pre planned and stacked deck. Keith Warren's nephew was there in his private school uniform testifying about how he couldn't pull a regular bow due to his small stature and kids were being prevented from accessing the outdoors. Everyone there knew who he was and it was never mentioned. It is what it is, but don't insinuate LSBA didn't fight or did some back door deal because that's pure nonsense

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Roger View Post
                            LSBA didn't give in to anything. I was VP then and testified at the committee hearing over this at the capital on behalf of LSBA. It was a pre planned and stacked deck. Keith Warren's nephew was there in his private school uniform testifying about how he couldn't pull a regular bow due to his small stature and kids were being prevented from accessing the outdoors. Everyone there knew who he was and it was never mentioned. It is what it is, but don't insinuate LSBA didn't fight or did some back door deal because that's pure nonsense

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                            The deal was done looooong before we knew what happened.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by haas0311 View Post
                              Anyone know if the organization is still up and running?
                              So the site is up but do we know if it's. still active?

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by haas0311 View Post
                                Anyone know if the organization is still up and running?

                                I got an e-mail this week, wishing me a happy B-day.

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