Lone star outdoor show did a whole episode on this. One of the board members who claims that they are for hunting and not anti hunting, showed up to the west tx big bobcat tournament to protest. The mountain lion coalition group is absurd and not supported by any science to back their plan. It is just a step towards infringing on our rights as hunters. Pretty sure tpwd shot them down. Give that podcast a listen and they get deep into it.
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[QUOTE=Hills of Texas;16428005]More lions are in Texas now that 50 years ago. They do well enough when left alone. Keep things the way they are and they will do just fine.
Really? I am an old hunter and only seen 4. (Mom and two cubs 45 years ago)
Lots more hunters, traffic snd cameras now. And it is still rare to know someone who recently saw one.
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Originally posted by Sackett View PostI am an avid hunter, conservationists and Texan. Personally, I believe we do need some form of study to determine if regulation is necessary for Mountain Lions in Texas. With more and more population growth, habitat is increasingly diminishing and I’d venture to say the number of hunters in the woods are increasing as well, especially with the growing “organic food” movements. I’d really like the opportunity to see mountain lions survive so my kids and their kids have that opportunity. If you believe we should have seasons, bag limits and regulations on Whitetail deer, why the heck wouldn’t you ant one on Mountain Lions?
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[quote=Big pig;16430251]Originally posted by Hills of Texas View PostMore lions are in Texas now that 50 years ago. They do well enough when left alone. Keep things the way they are and they will do just fine.
Really? I am an old hunter and only seen 4. (Mom and two cubs 45 years ago)
Lots more hunters, traffic snd cameras now. And it is still rare to know someone who recently saw one.
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Originally posted by tdwinklr View Postagreed. Never understood why it was nongame anyway. There's a season for them in every other state that allows hunting them.
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Originally posted by tdwinklr View Postagreed. Never understood why it was nongame anyway. There's a season for them in every other state that allows hunting them.
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Originally posted by tdwinklr View Postagreed. Never understood why it was nongame anyway. There's a season for them in every other state that allows hunting them.
More lions=less deer, elk, aoudad, sheep etc to hunt.
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Originally posted by wytex View PostBest case scenario is that this study shows just what you see Gary, an increasing population. No need for protection of any kind. That is what the non hunting groups are really pushing , hoping a study shows low numbers so they can start with limiting take then saying they need protection down the line.
I still think you need some but not to the detriment of other wildlife and domestic livestock.
Get your voices heard with TPW, don't just vent on here.
Comment on this proposal.
Enough hunters stepping up and commenting will get noticed.
Document sightings, trail cam pics etc.
Evidence of a healthy population is what they need to see.
Lions populations are thriving between absentee landowners, less trapping, less hound hunting, less cattle ranchers etc.
Sharing pictures with these people, not a chance. And I get a picture a week of a different lion at least.
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Originally posted by wtx223 View PostStudy could show a huge lion population and it would not matter to the people behind this petition. They have an agenda, and if tpwd does not give in to them, they will try other ways to get this passed.
Lions populations are thriving between absentee landowners, less trapping, less hound hunting, less cattle ranchers etc.
Sharing pictures with these people, not a chance. And I get a picture a week of a different lion at least.
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If this is allowed, you open a Pandera's Box for other "Non-Hunter" (anti-hunter) groups to infiltrate Texas with Regulations intent on the obstruction of hunting anything. The Friends of Coyotes Coalition, Feral Hogs United, The Society for the Prevention of Cruelty of Racoons, etc, etc! Do not California my Texas!!!
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[quote=Big pig;16430251]Originally posted by Hills of Texas View PostMore lions are in Texas now that 50 years ago. They do well enough when left alone. Keep things the way they are and they will do just fine.
Really? I am an old hunter and only seen 4. (Mom and two cubs 45 years ago)
Lots more hunters, traffic snd cameras now. And it is still rare to know someone who recently saw one.
Yes, really.
There are a lot more deer in Texas today than have ever existed here…ever. Deer is the main prey of lions.
Ranchers don’t kill as many lions as they used to because there are more deer for lions to eat. Healthy lions don’t kill livestock if they have deer to eat.
Texas is, effectively, all privately owned. Hunting pressure on lions is limited to that which a landowner allows. That’s a whole lot less pressure that western public lands get.
More preferred food, less targeted lion killing and severely limited opportunistic lion killing equals more lions. Habitat-gobbling urban sprawl is non-existent in prime lion country in Texas.
Lions are doing fine in Texas and folks clamoring about them becoming over-populated and wiping out deer populations are just as silly as those on the other side[emoji849]
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