CWD Discovered in Limestone County

[coldtrail]

The pen deer that are released into HF pastures can also get out from time to time, just like coyotes, hogs, etc.

[justletmein]

Yes, your need for trophy deer supersedes everyone else that just want to hunt deer without them being infected. Great argument.

...but it's their right to do whatever they want with livestock whether it hurts all other sportsmen or not. How dare you try to take that away.

[Encinal]

Doesn’t seem like there is a whole lot of concern on original origins or how.

I don’t know the answers either but I do wish the ideology would change to let’s seek to understand and not breeder bad boom, and I’m not even a breeder fan.

People that want to do what's right for the state's wildlife resources regardless of their personal interests are very hard to find. I'm lucky to know quite a few.

[sharpstick35]

With the right political shift I could see this being used to reduce curtail hunting in a few ways. first would be to scare away hunters by using the term "zombie deer". Second would be to ban feeding "because it un-naturally brings deer closer together". Thirdly the state could decimate the herd to stop the spread of the disease.

[wytex]

Encinal the prions have been found in the soil and in plants in endemic areas. Animals placed in "pens" where cwd positives have been housed has produced positives in previously negative deer and elk. The Sybille Research facility where it and other diseases are studied is a death sentence for any deer or elk sent there to live, most get it and die from it.
Up here they are trying ways to slow the spread but current theories on how are not very mature buck friendly.
Prevalence rates they claim are highest in mature bucks, mule deer and whitetails. They want to try reducing the population of mature bucks drastically to reduce prevalence rates. Hunters have revolted and they are scaling back those plans for now.

No human cases of v-CJD, human cwd, here where we have had it documented in our herds since the 1970's.

[Texans42]

...but it's their right to do whatever they want with livestock whether it hurts all other sportsmen or not. How dare you try to take that away.

Regardless of each other’s views on livestock or even Fencing, it behooves us to work to try to find out how it can show up in such a protected, tested and documented environments. There are guys in the industry doing everything right. That’s should be the scary thing, or we could just keep pointing fingers until we follow suit like some of the ground zero ballot biology states that states are trying to kill it out with increased tag numbers and later rut seasons.. then use hunter and winter kill data to show CWD caused population declines.

[justletmein]

Regardless of each other’s views on livestock or even Fencing, it behooves us to work to try to find out how it can show up in such a protected, tested and documented environments. There are guys in the industry doing everything right. That’s should be the scary thing, or we could just keep pointing fingers until we follow suit like some of the ground zero ballot biology states that states are trying to kill it out with increased tag numbers and later rut seasons.. then use hunter and winter kill data to show CWD caused population declines.

Right, but you don't just keep doing the things that are proven to rapidly keep spreading it while waiting to find out about a few one-offs. Attack it from all angles.

[Encinal]

Encinal the prions have been found in the soil and in plants in endemic areas. Animals placed in "pens" where cwd positives have been housed has produced positives in previously negative deer and elk. The Sybille Research facility where it and other diseases are studied is a death sentence for any deer or elk sent there to live, most get it and die from it.
Up here they are trying ways to slow the spread but current theories on how are not very mature buck friendly.
Prevalence rates they claim are highest in mature bucks, mule deer and whitetails. They want to try reducing the population of mature bucks drastically to reduce prevalence rates. Hunters have revolted and they are scaling back those plans for now.

No human cases of v-CJD, human cwd, here where we have had it documented in our herds since the 1970's.

Correct, but there has not been a documented transfer from plant to cervid infection to my knowledge, certainly not a documented case of transported plant matter to cervid infection.

[Encinal]

Right, but you don't just keep doing the things that are proven to rapidly keep spreading it while waiting to find out about a few one-offs. Attack it from all angles.

Exactly.

[Sippy]

well it's pretty clear that some people just want to wave a torch and pitchfork over CWD.

if Sippy is right about deer not being transported here in the last 7 years, then what happened?

was it being covered up with false testing?

Is it possible to transport the prions in feed??

There are too many assumptions about breeders without acknowledging the fact the test a far higher percentage of their deer than free range.

Maybe a free range deer rubbed noses with a deer inside the high fence, then a high fence deer rubbed noses with a deer inside the pens.

M16 - do you really want to KNOW, or are you just going to default to yelling at the kids off your lawn like usual?

I posed this question to the Big Game Program Leader at TPWD after finding about my client being a trace facility. He told me he doesn’t know how it got there, but he is worried about alfalfa and other feedstuffs, veterinarians reusing surgical equipment, and people not sanitizing their boots before and after going in pens.

[Lynn21]

F a bunch of breeders and their rediculous high arse priced hunts…..

[Texans42]

Right, but you don't just keep doing the things that are proven to rapidly keep spreading it while waiting to find out about a few one-offs. Attack it from all angles.

Great, let’s start with banning all supplemental feeding programs; grain, hay and pellets. If it’s grow with soil it can contain the prion. Infact we should ban movement of all grain and hay from CWD areas

We have live testing currently for any deer movement, so let’s test 100% of all deer killed in TX so we can get a better idea where its at. Then we can get a better idea how bad it is in free range populations across the country.

[Sippy]

F a bunch of breeders and their rediculous high arse priced hunts…..

Evil capitalists.

[Texans42]

F a bunch of breeders and their rediculous high arse priced hunts…..

They are actually a bargain per inch compared to LF, if that’s all you care about is inches.

[crc]

...but it's their right to do whatever they want with livestock whether it hurts all other sportsmen or not. How dare you try to take that away.

White tail deer are considered livestock?