Kia price surcharge

[RiverRat1]

Called on a F250 at Tyler ford, he told me they have a 15k mark up. I couldn’t stop laughing when guy told me that on phone. Their time will all come, relationships ruined and the good dealerships will gain more customers.

Why would you think this? Most people don't shop for a new vehicle often so most will never know which ones charged huge mark ups.

Even if they did know it seems like everyone forgets after a measly few months. Most would just shrug their shoulders and buy close versus driving to another town.

[Mayhem]

I’ve found that the luxury car dealers don’t play games like the sleazy American car dealers do, at least not Lexus around us.

Well maybe Cadillac but they are just a glorified Chevy soooooo…..


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A Lexus is a glorified Toyota.

Lexus and Toyota don’t haggle price much for the most part. A little bit of wiggle room, but not a lot.


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[mudbone]

With so many people paying stupid amounts of money for everything does anyone else wonder where all this money is coming from?

I have often wondered the same thing!! Is there that much money running around or are people borrowing that much? Sooner or later it is going to catch up with them and then the party is going to be over except for the crying!!!

[bbqfan5909]

Guess I’m much different than you, I won’t forget and will always remember. When you drive 60plus a year, run through vehicles quick.

Why would you think this? Most people don't shop for a new vehicle often so most will never know which ones charged huge mark ups.

Even if they did know it seems like everyone forgets after a measly few months. Most would just shrug their shoulders and buy close versus driving to another town.

[bearintex]

I am so not looking forward to having to buy a vehicle in the near future. Likely changing jobs and the new gig will not have a company truck like current one does. Way too many miles to drive my 10MPG Excursion.......

[Wagonwheel16]

Running into the same problem trying to buy a Hyundai palisade. Walked out twice already. Dealer markups from 5,000-10,000.


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[TA_Fab]

We just went through all this buying a new 4Runner. Call around and eventually you will find a good dealer that is not marking up the prices. You have to stay persistent and hopefully get a good salesman that’ll look out for the vehicle you want and make trades with dealers should on come up.


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[RiverRat1]

Guess I’m much different than you, I won’t forget and will always remember. When you drive 60plus a year, run through vehicles quick.

I'm not talking about you or me. I wouldn't forget either but I'm not car shopping this year. Talking about most people who either don't care or will forget. Besides who knows who's taking advantage right now? Is there a list?

[BlackoutRam2500]

My advice to all those who know they will need a vehicle in the next year is to go ahead and order it from a dealer who is willing to charge you invoice with no mark ups and put it in writing at the time of ordering.

From what I heard the automakers prefer this. And likely this is what buying a new vehicle is going to shift to going forward.

When I went to pick up my new truck the finance manager told me his dealership regularly had 400 vehicles on the lot and sold through 200 each month. At that moment he didn't have 20 vehicles the lot. He said everything they get now is customer orders and that they had been bickering with Ford because turns out Ford is loving the current state of things.

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[WItoTX]

OP, good luck on finding a cheap fuel saver. This last week, and now this week, there has been a solid uptick in used trucks and large SUV's on a lot of dealer lots. My guess is a lot of folks are trading in for fuel saving vehicles. I could be wrong, but the Toyota next door and the Autonation lots have had a significant increase in trucks (I only noticed because I have begun looking at lightly used 3/4 tons) these past two weeks.

I think we are going to see truck prices start coming down soon. But no end in sight for cars and small SUV's.

[WItoTX]

My advice to all those who know they will need a vehicle in the next year is to go ahead and order it from a dealer who is willing to charge you invoice with no mark ups and put it in writing at the time of ordering.

From what I heard the automakers prefer this. And likely this is what buying a new vehicle is going to shift to going forward.

When I went to pick up my new truck the finance manager told me his dealership regularly had 400 vehicles on the lot and sold through 200 each month. At that moment he didn't have 20 vehicles the lot. He said everything they get now is customer orders and that they had been bickering with Ford because turns out Ford is loving the current state of things.

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And on the other side of it's mouth, Ford is saying how it hates the current situation. LOL

[BlackoutRam2500]

And on the other side of it's mouth, Ford is saying how it hates the current situation. LOL

Of course they are. They know people are frustrated and that a lot of dealerships are taking advantage.

If you were them though, which would you prefer? Making 10% less vehicles per year but every single one is sold OR, the old system, where dealer picked spec vehicles sit for months waiting for customers to stop in and hopefully find what they want or settle for most of what they want?

From what I understand the dealerships don't buy those vehicles outright upfront... they take them on like a consignment and pay rent to have them sitting on their lots. I know I have all the terminology wrong but that's how it was explained to me years ago.

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[bowhntrmatt]

It's insane.

The new trick I've seen is for the dealers to have someone inside "buy" a vehicle, put a few miles on it, then sell it as "used" with the markup. This way they don't have window stickers, msrp, etc. to give people ammo for objections.

I bought a Tahoe about 2 weeks ago. Dealer had one in transit and got it for MSRP. No BS or funny business, other than trying to sell me some $800 protectant that I declined without too much pushback. It was a great experience.
Same dealer had about 6 of these used Tahoes on the lot, all 2021 or 2022 models, with 500-1500 miles. all of them were priced $15-20k over the one I bought. All I had to do was wait about 3 weeks for it to come in.

Search online forums about your particular vehicle and you will likely come across dealers that you can order through for at/under MSRP. Even if they are out of state, they will have shipping contacts.

[jshouse]

my brother used to sell cars in dallas, he has been calling around to order a new truck and called a guy he used to work with. guy was fired from his dealership because he was caught making under the table deals with customers, buying their trade in for cash and then selling it on craigslist and making profit.

i have had a few "easy" transactions at dealerships, but the 3-4 "bad" ones outweigh them by a ton. a good credit union and "by owner" on searches is how i prefer it.

[Big pig]

We just went through all this buying a new 4Runner. Call around and eventually you will find a good dealer that is not marking up the prices. You have to stay persistent and hopefully get a good salesman that’ll look out for the vehicle you want and make trades with dealers should on come up.


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I jus had a long talk with our Toyota salesman here in Brownwood. We bought our highlander from them

They are not up charging for local/walk-in customers.

Trying to save their customer base. Bruner is the best dealership I have ever purchased from or used their service Dept. And I drove many miles and cars in my job as a Landman for 40 years. Along with distant leases my whole life.