I must be real lucky. I have a lot of 4 strand perimeter fences and don’t have problems with cattle getting out. If one does it will be somebody else’s problem as it will go for a ride. But nothing wrong with having a pissing contest to see who can string most wire. Or using stainless posts.
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Originally posted by M16 View PostI must be real lucky. I have a lot of 4 strand perimeter fences and don’t have problems with cattle getting out. If one does it will be somebody else’s problem as it will go for a ride. But nothing wrong with having a pissing contest to see who can string most wire. Or using stainless posts.
I built a lot of 4-strand fence, with my grandfather, back in the 1960's. T-posts and pipe corners. Before that, there were a lot of 4-strand fences, built with cedar posts. Some are still in use, if the briars/trees have grown around them.
That era is gone. At that time, most folks were running white-face Herefords. A cow would weigh around 900-1000 pounds, and a bull would run about 1700 pounds. We sold calves at 300 pounds.
In the 1980's, there was a big push for "Black Angus" beef. If you are old, like me, you can remember the grocery store ads for the angus beef. The USDA, Cattlemen's Association, and others pushed us to Black Angus cattle. And, we did.
Today, we run a mix of Black Angus and Red Angus cows. Our bulls are all Black Angus. A Black Angus cow weighs between 1000-1300 pounds. A Red Angus cow will push 1500 pounds, and they are crazy. A healthy Black Angus bull will push 2500 pounds.
Four wire fences will not hold them, if they decide to go elsewhere. Keep in mind, your bottom two wires need to hold calves in. We typically space them at 9".
We build 5 wire fences, that the top wire is at 4' 6", with braces, posts, etc. at 5'.
If you run big cows, build big fences.
Randy
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Originally posted by planomustang View PostLucky, or maybe not using your perimeter fence to keep cattle in
I built a lot of 4-strand fence, with my grandfather, back in the 1960's. T-posts and pipe corners. Before that, there were a lot of 4-strand fences, built with cedar posts. Some are still in use, if the briars/trees have grown around them.
That era is gone. At that time, most folks were running white-face Herefords. A cow would weigh around 900-1000 pounds, and a bull would run about 1700 pounds. We sold calves at 300 pounds.
In the 1980's, there was a big push for "Black Angus" beef. If you are old, like me, you can remember the grocery store ads for the angus beef. The USDA, Cattlemen's Association, and others pushed us to Black Angus cattle. And, we did.
Today, we run a mix of Black Angus and Red Angus cows. Our bulls are all Black Angus. A Black Angus cow weighs between 1000-1300 pounds. A Red Angus cow will push 1500 pounds, and they are crazy. A healthy Black Angus bull will push 2500 pounds.
Four wire fences will not hold them, if they decide to go elsewhere. Keep in mind, your bottom two wires need to hold calves in. We typically space them at 9".
We build 5 wire fences, that the top wire is at 4' 6", with braces, posts, etc. at 5'.
If you run big cows, build big fences.
Randy
Animals usually break fences looking for food or sex. When two bulls decide to tangle not many fences will stop them. Overgraze your place and you will have fence problems. Some cattle are fence jumpers. Sell them and let somebody else deal with them.
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Originally posted by M16 View PostThat's odd. My neighbor raises Angus. And his perimeter fences are four wire. He doesn't have any trouble containing them. But then he doesn't overgraze his pasture. And I don't overgraze mine. What a coincidence.
Animals usually break fences looking for food or sex. When two bulls decide to tangle not many fences will stop them. Overgraze your place and you will have fence problems. Some cattle are fence jumpers. Sell them and let somebody else deal with them.
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Originally posted by M16 View PostThat's odd. My neighbor raises Angus. And his perimeter fences are four wire. He doesn't have any trouble containing them. But then he doesn't overgraze his pasture. And I don't overgraze mine. What a coincidence.
Animals usually break fences looking for food or sex. When two bulls decide to tangle not many fences will stop them. Overgraze your place and you will have fence problems. Some cattle are fence jumpers. Sell them and let somebody else deal with them.
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Not at your reply but at the fence jumper part......... ever have your neighbors cow on your back porch
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Gotta admit it was funny when the wife and I got woke up by a cow at the bedroom slider door
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I would go with wire netting fence about the same price as a 6 strand fence because the less labor required to put it up and you'll got a real fence when finished. Would you neighbors share 1/2 the cost of the fence that's the way it's normally done unless you have fence along the road etc. check with the county nat resources and see if they have any cost sharing. Fencing is always a good write off. New fence is depreciated out over so many years but fence repair can all be taken off all at once. About $4 a foot depending on how many braces, corners, gates etc are involved.
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Build your own fence and take pride in your accomplishments, we just put two gates in and running 2 and half miles of fence, H-post at any major elevation change, steel post every 100ft, 5 strands with 12,9,9,9,9 spacing. I dont like to spend money paying a man to do work that I can do myself..
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Originally posted by Tuffbroadhead View PostBuild your own fence and take pride in your accomplishments, we just put two gates in and running 2 and half miles of fence, H-post at any major elevation change, steel post every 100ft, 5 strands with 12,9,9,9,9 spacing. I dont like to spend money paying a man to do work that I can do myself..
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