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Who'll be first? E-F150

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  • MONSTERKEN
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    I get it, I do, but what is the point of these vehicles if I can't drive cross country with it? 300-500 miles range, whoopdeedoo if I gotta sit and wait a hour or even longer for the vehicle to charge. Sooner or later you'll be stuck in the middle of no where wishing you had a gas or diesel engine that you could have filled up at that last station for 5 minutes and still be on the road. When I can drive cross country in a electric vehicle then and only then will I be sold. Hopefully that time comes sooner rather than later. There's my 2 pennies.

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  • Outback
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    It's not enough range to get to our ranch and forget driving to hunt out of state. I think I will pass for now.

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  • Playa
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    Originally posted by panhandlehunter View Post
    Are there places to charge them on the road? The range is what’s a killer for me. I can’t make it to the lease on one charge. I imagine they’ll be like golf carts in the future, people getting rid of them because they need new batteries.
    Yes- what is the realistic life of the battery? I know our golf cart is on set 3 of batts at around a grand a set (I think). I also realize the battery types are different. What’s the ecological cost to disposing of batteries? That can’t be good for the environment.

    I just can’t comprehend how these cars cannot have their own on-board charging systems? A 5 gal talk for gas and a small inverter type genny to produce its own charging while driving.

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  • jdg13
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    Originally posted by Eastwood View Post
    I'm about as resistant to change as anyone you'll find, but remember many people fought to keep using whale oil and horses.
    The difference is petroleum and cars have a clear advantage in cost and ease of use over whales and horses. That, and world governments weren't talking about banning horses as an "incentive" to drive cars. Sure, if you are the specific use case where you just drive to work and can charge in your garage overnight, electric is a great choice. Wanna go on a long trip, better plan your stops to find a charger every 300 miles and wait, less if you actually tow/haul anything. Of course if all you care about is "it has instant torque and goes fast" then yeah, electric has an advantage. Real world though, neither the cars or the power grid are ready for prime time.

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  • DedDuk
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    I picture people riding around with a Honda 2000 Generator in the bed of their truck to charge as they go.

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  • Capt.Brown
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    I will get EV one day, it’s the future for sure

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  • XR650RRider
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    Originally posted by E.TX.BOWHUNTER View Post
    I was thinking about all these vehicles all being plugged in for all these hours every weekday,( I'm thinking 10-15 years from now) I don't think the power grid is going to like it. I would think you would be limited by some "authority" on when you could charge your vehicle to prevent taking out the grid. Basically you are going to have to get permission to even charge your car. Then, with the smart meters, rates will skyrocket during these hours because the demand will go up during the evenings and nights. each vehicle would be drawing the current almost as much as an electric furnace and if you have 2 cars well you can figure that out. During the summer with all generation being up, how could the grid handle the additional load? We know how "difficult" it is to get permits to build power plants. I see this as a trap. You have a car now that you can't charge and use when you go to work so now you will be forced onto public transportation. I don't see any real good coming from it.
    Going to be a lot of folks late for work when the rolling blackouts only gets them a 1/4 charge. Since the rapid chargers require a 70 amp service, you can always buy a 18,000 watt generator to charge your vehicle, burn 40 gallons of gasoline to charge your pickup up to the equivalent of a 15 gallon drive. Imagine a suburban neighborhood where every house has an additional 70 amp load on the main power line. Be melting the feeders and switchgear, couple of months for parts, but at least that neighborhood won't be using power for that period.

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  • Cookiemonster1
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    My wife has a hybrid car currently and loves it. Gas mileage is great and it has some get up and go due to gas. It automatically switches back and forth depending on what kind of power is needed.

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  • Chief Big Toe
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    no one has mentioned the power your whole house from the Truck on board generator, they were very vague, they did mention that one could use it for 3 days ,
    ( referring to the Snowmagidon ) they showed powering power tools, saws all looks cool, but is this something that will need to charge every stop one makes, or drive it all week then charge it?

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  • camoclad
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    Originally posted by Scubasteveo View Post
    Their price point will sell the trucks. Under $40,000 for standard model, plus a tax break means you can get it for right at $33,000. They will sell like hot cakes.
    Wonder if the current pricing on new trucks is by design to make us think 33k is a steal.

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  • kkp005
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    Looks like a cool truck but to me there are a few big unanswered questions..

    I’m with E.Tx.Bowhunter. What are they going to do in California when everyone gets home and plugs in their electric vehicles? They already have blackouts when people get home and turn on their AC..

    Realistically how much is this going to increase you electric bill every month??

    How much are new batteries and how do you go about disposing the old worn out ones ?

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  • Eastwood
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    I'm about as resistant to change as anyone you'll find, but remember many people fought to keep using whale oil and horses.

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  • MLank
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    Originally posted by WItoTX View Post
    I will say I am really excited for this F150 to come out. There is a happy medium between gas and electric hybridization, and it's going to produce some of the most powerful vehicles ever made. The more electric motors MFG's can get on the road, the more R&D they can do, the more the final product improves. And I am all for city folks doing the R&D the next 10 years so when it comes time for me to buy a new truck, the electric motor is perfected, and mated with a diesel generator.

    I don't like that Ford used the "Lightning" name. But I get it.
    Forgive my ignorance on how a Hybrid works.... but, are you saying the truck would have an internal combustion engine and an electric engine? Just, a much much more efficient system 10 years down the road from now after a lot more tweaking to the system? I like the sound of that better than electric only and very limited mileage.

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  • panhandlehunter
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    Are there places to charge them on the road? The range is what’s a killer for me. I can’t make it to the lease on one charge. I imagine they’ll be like golf carts in the future, people getting rid of them because they need new batteries.

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  • Lone_Wolf
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    Probably never own one unless I'm forced into a corner, or the Govt. Subsides just get ridiculous. Be more likely to have a commuter car, for back and forth to work. They better be taking into consideration, the suck all these vehicles are going to have on the grid. Look what happened during the winter storm. How we going to charge all these vehicles if we can't keep the lights on, when the weather gets to the extremes.

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