Any of y'all live near the new Bois d'Arc Lake?

[2Lazy2P]

Good afternoon TBH-

I have spent the last 5 plus years working directly on the design team for both of these dams as the CAD Designer. There is quite a bit of misinformation on this thread concerning both projects. If anyone has any specific questions, please feel free to reach out or ask them here and I will do my best to answer in a timely manner.

Just a few from what I've read so far:

1. Payment Compensation: The properties that were affected were paid for their loss, usually to the landowners benefit.

2. Flooding - this was a major reason Water Planning Studies were start in in 2005 for this area. 1900-1920, there was a major push to control flooding in this area. Hence the reason Bois D Arc Creek and North Sulfur River are straight with bad erosion and severe flash flooding. The straightened all flows which in turn is and was causing bad erosion issues downstream.

3. The job created from these projects and the ongoing $$$ invested into our communities with these dams is over 4.5 billion dollars in construction alone. This is good business for Fannin County - DFW - and the state. Investing in infrastructure today will help us offset future water shortages in the next century, as both of these structures are rated for 100 years.

Mark

It will be interesting to follow the “growth” of Fannin County and the financial impacts the new lake brings. Delta County should be thriving by now since Cooper Lake was completed in late 1991/early 1992. I can remember all of the “growth” talks in the local newspapers back then.

And like I said before, there is a big difference in being forced to sell your land and choosing to sell your land. Compensation be dammed, pun intended.

[SC-001]

I've heard some off the record stuff about Marvin Nichols, its going to happen eventually

[SC-001]

I read they are trying to follow a Lake Fork model closely for the fishing and stocking but havent heard much else. Assuming they left a lot of timber uncut?

It won't be a Fork, not even close, they raped all the timber out of this new lake, it will be more like Cooper, great the first few years and then downhill fast

[Parramore]

It won't be a Fork, not even close, they raped all the timber out of this new lake, it will be more like Cooper, great the first few years and then downhill fast

On this map, the yellow is the clearing. The rounded bubble areas to the west are restricted and were protected. Overall, 35-40 percent was cleared, leaving large swaths of timber for fish spawning areas west of the new bridge for FM 2945.

[Parramore]

The Blue Line is the Normal Pool Elevation of 534.00.

[flywise]

found the video. its pretty interesting if you have 30 minutes to kill. It gives a little insight on the people who lost land for the lake

https://vimeo.com/13195858

I was looking for that vid.

The price of progress is steep sometimes.

[duckmanep]

I bet she filling up fast this week.

[tdwinklr]

This is not true. They are planning on drilling two water wells at Lake Ralph Hall that will be 6000ft deep and are estimated to flow at 350 gallons a minute. Once construction is finished, both wells will be left in place for county use and for the city of Ladonia and other towns in the area. After speaking with Water Planning earlier today, at that rate and with that regions usage, they should have access to fresh drinking water long after the lifespan of the dam. Each well will cost approx. 2.5 million to drill, so not chump change.

As far as those that owned any property within the limits of the lake easements, they were compensated generously. I have seen some of the payout totals and those were not $0 to those owners. Do you know of an owner first hand that did not get a payout?

If you have any other questions tdwinklr, I'd be glad to discuss.

Mark

that's a different lake !!!!

... and Ladonia, not many people in that area, at all.

[Parramore]

https://boisdarclake.org/ This is a good resource.

[Parramore]

that's a different lake !!!!

... and Ladonia, not many people in that area, at all.

What is your gripe then? Just want to complain?

[eradicator]

I bet she filling up fast this week.

I think its about as high as its gonna get for a while. The **** work is not finished.

[Parramore]

especially when our county gets nothing out of it, water-wise.

In case you forgot what we were talking about, which is the subject you brought up, "the county gets nothing". I just showed you that the county will receive quite of bit of fresh water access. Added jobs and development also for the county. Either you don't like money or you are a socialist.

[muzzlebrake]

My cousin owns two farms up there and both will be 1/3 covered and he will have lake front property in two separate places. He setting on a gold mine. Meanwhile the lake filling has pushed the hogs out of the bottoms and they are taking over the high ground by the hundreds if not thousands. I need to get up there for a visit soon.

[Dirty Kev]

Good afternoon TBH-

I have spent the last 5 plus years working directly on the design team for both of these dams as the CAD Designer. There is quite a bit of misinformation on this thread concerning both projects. If anyone has any specific questions, please feel free to reach out or ask them here and I will do my best to answer in a timely manner.

Just a few from what I've read so far:

1. Payment Compensation: The properties that were affected were paid for their loss, usually to the landowners benefit.

2. Flooding - this was a major reason Water Planning Studies were start in in 2005 for this area. 1900-1920, there was a major push to control flooding in this area. Hence the reason Bois D Arc Creek and North Sulfur River are straight with bad erosion and severe flash flooding. The straightened all flows which in turn is and was causing bad erosion issues downstream.

3. The job created from these projects and the ongoing $$$ invested into our communities with these dams is over 4.5 billion dollars in construction alone. This is good business for Fannin County - DFW - and the state. Investing in infrastructure today will help us offset future water shortages in the next century, as both of these structures are rated for 100 years.

Mark

Good info. I saw a couple presentations on this project before construction even began. Heard that several of the sub-contractors at the dam, pipeline, and WTP were supposed to be local crews to help put money into the area.

[Katsaregood]

Good info. I saw a couple presentations on this project before construction even began. Heard that several of the sub-contractors at the dam, pipeline, and WTP were supposed to be local crews to help put money into the area.

Yeah it really helped one of the companies I had ties with in that area. They were involved with the pipeline and parts of the construction of the lake. Before the pipeline project was finished they offered to give me a portion of work on it. There were some details that still had to be worked out and decided on first.