i don't care if you hate him or love him....... u can never count him out... greatest quarterback of ALL time!!
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Originally posted by KSU_Wildcat View PostHe may be GOAT but he is a cheat. He pays men to deflate his balls.
You can put 11 pounds of air in the ball,or 11 pounds of lead, and Tom Brady is still the greatest quarterback who has ever played the game, and by so much that there is not a 2nd place.
He was bad today, and beat another top 5 guy.
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This same Tampa team last year with a **** of a quarterback.... 7-9 and couldn't even sniff the playoffs.
This year add Brady.... in the Super Bowl.
The guy is no where near the greatest athlete, but he is the greatest QB ever. It's a team sport where IMO quarterbacks can and should absolutely be judged off of team success. I'd take Brady's achievements over Rodgers' any day. Rodgers had numerous opportunities yesterday to drive down the field and lead his team to a win. Instead he's now 1-4 in conference title games.
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Originally posted by Mambajeep View PostOuch. I have him top 3 currently playing but not in the GOAT conversation.Originally posted by mjhaverkamp View PostI guess we been watching different games, imo the only QB in the NFL that may be better than Rodgers is Mahomes. I think he won or will win the MVP this year, will be his third ? As far as judging a QB on SB's, I think that is stupid, it takes a team to win a SB, a QB is not going to do it by himself, even Tom Brady.
Rodger's doesn't do any of those things. If Rodgers is not surrounded by talent, like he was in 2011, he can't get it done. Brady can and does, season after season.
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Originally posted by Dale Moser View PostYou can put 11 pounds of air in the ball,or 11 pounds of lead, and Tom Brady is still the greatest quarterback who has ever played the game, and by so much that there is not a 2nd place.
He was bad today, and beat another top 5 guy.
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I'm glad he didn't hang it up & is playing this year (& next). He does make it more interesting.
To me he is absolutely the GOAT in almost every way - obviously his records & simply performing like he does at his age - one of a kind.
It is hard to gauge how much of the success is due to him vrs what he had to work with. I do still think Belichik is one of if not the best coach ever. The 'Patriot Way' results in players performing as well as they can - maybe average on paper, but non-average results. But then how much of that was Brady pushing them to be better, too?
My biggest gripe with Brady is that I don't see him get sacked enough! And you know it isn't because he's the most mobile QB ever.
There have been many QBs I've rooted for that almost seemed to have no chance due to the constant pressure and so often having a defender meeting them as they finish dropping back. The few times I've seen Brady have to deal with this, he looked pretty average - nothing at all like seeing a Mahomes or Lamar Jackson dealing with a really good pass rush.
And to even think that Tampa Bay is the same team as last year only adding Brady is laughable. They had a far more mobile QB last year who was sacked a whole lot more than Brady was this year. Beefed up O-line, maybe?
I'd much rather see Mahomes get a second ring than Brady get a 7th. Maybe Mahomes becomes the GOAT at some point - but yes, getting to the big game in almost HALF the seasons you played seems like one of those things never to be repeated.
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