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    On this one I would suggest dropping him /her like a hot potato. In regards to Chances comment, there is a correlation between compensation and success. If you tell em up front. The issue really isn’t with the guide. It’s the method of compensation. The landowner or whoever is ramrod, once again, should take all the feedback given here by guides into consideration and compensate them accordingly. Some say that will price a lot of people out of the market. How can that be when your paying for it one way or the other. You’ll either go for or not.

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      I always budget a trip with tipping in mind but I’ve often wonder if tipping is required when the guide is also the owner. Not wanting to be rude I’ve tipped them but have often wondered if it was necessary if they’re making the profits of the hunt/fishing trip.

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        Originally posted by Hogmauler View Post
        On this one I would suggest dropping him /her like a hot potato. In regards to Chances comment, there is a correlation between compensation and success. If you tell em up front. The issue really isn’t with the guide. It’s the method of compensation. The landowner or whoever is ramrod, once again, should take all the feedback given here by guides into consideration and compensate them accordingly. Some say that will price a lot of people out of the market. How can that be when your paying for it one way or the other. You’ll either go for or not.
        I'll tell you #EXACTLy why this doesn't happen, because most folks are going to price shop just like buying a new vehicle. Hunting is supply and demand just like most things. If the owner/outfitter includes tips in their price, they are likely to be passed over by customers who are initially doing research on PRICE alone.
        Now some people buy Jaguars not Chevys- no need to worry about these type customers because they are buying no matter the price and tips etc could definitely be added onto those type hunts without reducing interest.

        So question is- do you own a Jaguar or Chevy/Ford (Dodge guys are likely to be going to Texas ram hunt

        Originally posted by Geezy Rider View Post
        I always budget a trip with tipping in mind but I’ve often wonder if tipping is required when the guide is also the owner. Not wanting to be rude I’ve tipped them but have often wondered if it was necessary if they’re making the profits of the hunt/fishing trip.
        According to Dear Abby back in the 80's hair saloon owners did not need to be tipped bc as you say they are profiting from the service itself. I'm not sure why I remember that but I always have.
        I've run across this same dilemma when hunting Africa on a couple occasions. I eventually did leave a decent tip bc the guy was a solo operation trying to keep his family fed and safe. I thought the money was well spent, but not sure how I'd handle in other circumstances.
        Last edited by buck_wild; 08-04-2020, 08:06 AM.

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          Originally posted by Geezy Rider View Post
          I always budget a trip with tipping in mind but I’ve often wonder if tipping is required when the guide is also the owner. Not wanting to be rude I’ve tipped them but have often wondered if it was necessary if they’re making the profits of the hunt/fishing trip.
          I tipped the owner that was my guide the only time that happen with me. He gave the tip to the other guides and cooks. Was glad because I know one guide got stiffed. The hunter was extremely new at this and did not know that it was customary to tip and did not have the money. They left when the guide was not around. This guide also work his butt off to get them on an elk.

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            That is exactly correct Buck. So I pass your landowners operation over because let’s say he includes gratuities in his price and I stop at another site that appears cheaper. I read the info and see “gratuities not included”. Six of one half dozen of the other. Then it would come down to success percentages as far as choosing an outfitter.

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              Originally posted by Chance Love View Post
              So I used to guide a LOT, for quite a while. Now when I do it’s usually for hunts I sell for our lease to help in the feed bill, and a very SELECT few other ranches. I certainly have my opinions on tipping.


              With that being said try this, when you show up to hunt you can: Tell the guide you are not going to tip. OR, tell him you will likely tip well. Which one of those do you wanna hedge your bets on?
              What agreement did you have before said hunter showed up? A set price? Or did you tell him you’d leave it up to him what he wanted to pay?

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                Why is this so difficult?

                If you pay for a DIY hunt but then the guide/owner/ranchhand/neighbor ends up, for whatever reason, letting you use his 4-wheeler, drives you all over, helps you drag out your kill, gives you corn/feed/attractant because you didn't bring any, builds you a campfire....and/or whatever else extra you can think up....why not tip the guy?

                Why make things harder than they are? Just sit back and put yourself in their shoes and think.
                They probably don't care that much if you tip or not but they will remember those who do. Heck I got a hand made corn bag (and a little cash) as a tip once and it was great..I still use it.

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                  My grandma made me some burlap drawers back in the day. I wore the crotch outta them but still wear em. She never asked for a tip!

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                    Originally posted by Hogmauler View Post
                    My grandma made me some burlap drawers back in the day. I wore the crotch outta them but still wear em. She never asked for a tip!


                    Probably got tired of you wearing her dresses.
                    I don’t wanna know how you wore the crotch out of the pants [emoji15][emoji51]


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                      Originally posted by drbonner View Post
                      What agreement did you have before said hunter showed up? A set price? Or did you tell him you’d leave it up to him what he wanted to pay?
                      On my lease, I am the “outfitter”. Prices are discussed for each package. No tip is expected for me. Now if I need to bring in another buddy to guide other than a leasemate, then things change. If the hunter doesn’t tip (or doesn’t tip enough) then I will make up the difference with the guide. I want them to want to work for me. In this case I will tell the hunter what is included and what is not. Yes, I will tell him tips are not included.

                      I see this subject pop up every single year. Simplest answer is to tip your guide. I’d say minimum 10%.

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                        Originally posted by RiverRat1 View Post
                        Why is this so difficult?

                        If you pay for a DIY hunt but then the guide/owner/ranchhand/neighbor ends up, for whatever reason, letting you use his 4-wheeler, drives you all over, helps you drag out your kill, gives you corn/feed/attractant because you didn't bring any, builds you a campfire....and/or whatever else extra you can think up....why not tip the guy?

                        Why make things harder than they are? Just sit back and put yourself in their shoes and think.
                        They probably don't care that much if you tip or not but they will remember those who do. Heck I got a hand made corn bag (and a little cash) as a tip once and it was great..I still use it.
                        So , if I show up at your place with Spencer and that Grayson yayhoo, and i shoot the wrong animal, plug up your toilet, bich about everything and leave you a three dollar tip, can I come back

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                          Originally posted by Radar View Post
                          So , if I show up at your place with Spencer and that Grayson yayhoo, and i shoot the wrong animal, plug up your toilet, bich about everything and leave you a three dollar tip, can I come back
                          Probably
                          LOL

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                            Lol Grayson!!’

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                              Originally posted by RiverRat1 View Post
                              Probably
                              LOL

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                                Originally posted by Radar View Post
                                So , if I show up at your place with Spencer and that Grayson yayhoo, and i shoot the wrong animal, plug up your toilet, bich about everything and leave you a three dollar tip, can I come back
                                This is still better than dealing with half the yahoos out there! Don't forget to trash the lodge, misplace every tool in the barn, leave your deer head and run all the gas out of the buggies.

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