Bugles and Cow Calls

[JKJR]

I've been toying around with these as I am headed to Colorado next year. I bought a 3-pack of Primos mouth calls. Pretty easy to learn.

My questions -

I assume that they make bugle tubes that you use with the diaphragm calls, correct? OR, are the bugle tubes always accompanied with a reed?

Does anyone have a suggestion on which bugle tube? I hear that Primos Pack Tube is pretty good, but it is high pitched. Anything to help deliver a bot lower bugle?

What cow calls would you reccomend? I've used diaphragm, but it seems the other "flute" style would be easier when my heart is beating out of my chest.

THANKS for any help.

[Landrover]

Hoochie Momma seems to be the most successful call among elk hunters. Bugling is used primarily for locating a bull but in MANY areas the mature bulls will shut down when they hear another bugle. I have the diaphrams from Primos along with one of the tubes. I think it is the Pack Tube? The reeds are interchangeable.

[Lulhorse]

hello there. Primos calls are great . As far as the high pitch bugles thats what you want. Lower and you sound like an older bull they may or may not call back but seldom come in if they think its a real mature bull unless of course he is a real mature bull but on otc hunts lets face it there are not alot of them and those are very smart and cll shy . We have a blast with the raghorns and once in a while a big boy gives us a show . we use bugles for a locator cow calling aggresivly has yeilded some exciting action. That said we used a primos bugle pack last year and had a boss daddy type bull cover at least a mile of rough steep stuff in less than 10 minutes.

[Lulhorse]

oh the reed in place type calls I am luke warm on simply remove and use your diaphram . I think 905 of the elk alive today in Colorado have heard an avg of 30 total minutes of the noise a hoohie momma makes . Pre rut I would use one but rut time I wont take it out

[quackNthwack]

interesting

[tuthdoc]

Well, before we went we heard all the stuff about low bugles shutting down the bulls, but we found right the opposite,. My brother and I did what the bulls did and when they wanted to fight, we fought right back with growling and screaming. We almost got gun over a couple times. We called in more with the screaming bugles than with cow calls. We hunted early season when the bulls were gather ing harems. In three years we killed a 362, a 350, and three between 290 and 320. Of course, I could never draw a bull tag and had to watch them get killed. The two years that I did draw bull tags, my near misses of a couple big bulls and passing several 5x5's each year was plenty exciting.

I used an Abe's tube with latex reed and my brothers used Primos blue reed tubes. If I went back the first 21 days of the season, I'd have a couple sceery's and a couple hoochie mamas. I'd have two going at the same time and sound like a cow herd, not a cow, and I'd have my bugle ready and use it to call bulls, not locate them.

[JKJR]

Good stuff. I appreciate the input.

When you say "aggresive cow calling", should I assume that is what tuthdoc is saying about using two calls and sounding like a herd? I have heard that passing the bugle tube back and forth in front of your mouth when cow calling helps to make it sounds like different cows at slightly different distances. Would only work with diaphragm calls...

So, Sceery and Hoochie Mama....

Pack bugle is a higher pitched bugle...and thoughts on what would bring lower, more dominant tones?

THANKS

[GR5]

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