Gulf coast marsh?

[LuckyCards2006]

If you own a house on a bay with marsh that goes out a 100 yards or so, can you disturb it? Just to clear a path to walk through?

Build a pier? People own piers way out in a bay off their house, why couldn’t you build a pier across a marsh? I was told it’s federally protected for bird sanctuary.


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[fish4food]

No clue! Wish I could help.

Where’s your place at? Or near? May make a difference, might not.

[Lungbustr]

My uncles pier crosses through the marsh just like pictured to get to the water.

I think you are over thinking it. Duck blinds, cat walks to blinds, piers and all kinds of stuff get built in marshes all the time with no special permits.

[Brazos Hunter]

If you own a house on a bay with marsh that goes out a 100 yards or so, can you disturb it? Just to clear a path to walk through? [ATTACH]1007187[/ATTACH]

Build a pier? People own piers way out in a bay off their house, why couldn’t you build a pier across a marsh? I was told it’s federally protected for bird sanctuary.


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Not all marshes are federally protected. If it is then you are sol, if not you are good to do as you wish.



Michael

[marlinboy33]

is it designated wetlands, or marsh?

[Mayhem]

Where is this place? We need to k is so we can research this further. If it’s federally protected you can do anything with it.


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[LuckyCards2006]

Where is this place? We need to k is so we can research this further. If it’s federally protected you can do anything with it.


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It’s on Powderhorn lake, Indianola.


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[Mayhem]

It’s on Powderhorn lake, Indianola.


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Considering it’s powder horn and the WMA and everything else that surrounds it, I think you may be SOL but I’m not positive.

How did you find out about the bird sanctuaries?

Are there signs???


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[SaintBlaise]

I can't see a problem with making a path. In wetlands, you just can't dig or fill in for the most part without the proper permits or restoration offsets. I'm sure you can ask your way into any permit though. If it's not a WMA start your build, keep it small to not attract any unwanted attention. btw, nice view.

[Greenheadless]

Instead of asking an internet chat forum and possibly getting bad advice, you might want to be talking about the department/organization that has deemed it protected to see what you can do. You might also research their claims with the GLO.

[RifleBowPistol]

Hey, if some company can buy a island and build a huge oil refinery on that island. I think you can build a pier to the water on your property. F them. Build it, if someone has a problem with it, ask them how and why they are allowing that refinery to be built over near Port A., on a island. I am sure they are going to do a hole hell of a lot more damage to the environment than you would by digging a some post holes and making a pier over the marsh, so you are not destroying more marsh, by just brining in a bunch of oyster shell, dumping it to built it up, so you can have a walk way to the water. I know people used to have cabins along some islands years ago. I know we used to stay in a cabin along the Land Cut, those had piers down to the water and out into the water, there were a bunch of them, they did not hurt anything. I have heard you have to get a federal permit to build those cabins now days, not sure if that was the case back when those cabins were built, likely why there are not many of them any more.

Just shows you how our government works, an individual wants to do something small which will result in little to zero damage to the environment. The government makes a big deal out of it, and either says no or you have to pay for a expensive permit. But then they will let a large company basically completely destroy all the wildlife on a island to build a monster oil refinery in a bay. Nothing bad could ever happen there. Why they allowed that crap? The only thing that makes sense is pay offs and lots of money. The chances that refinery is going to have spills into the bay, are very high. Why they did not build that refinery on land, away from any place where runoff could wind up in the water, baffles me. If you were an individual and bought the same island, the feds would tell you what you could and could not do and threaten you with huge fines and jail time, even though you paid for it. You can bet, nobody will get punished that will amount to anything, every time, that refinery has a leak or spill of some type that kills marine life in the bay.

I would build the pier, if someone asks, tell them it was there when you got there and F off.

[John Paul]

Just about everyone else on powderhorn lake that has a pier has done it, might ask one of them if they went through a process or just did it.

[RifleBowPistol]

One more bit of info on the subject, if the feds want to give you any crap about building a pier over your marshy land. Ask them about the large piers they built over marsh land, in the Aransas Wildlife Refuge. They have numerous piers out over marsh. One of them is huge and had to require multiple pieces of heavy equipment to be drive a long ways out across that marsh, to build that huge, very tall pier. That thing has to be over a mile long, that was done in recent times, it was not there back in the 80s and 90s, when we bow hunted there a lot. They built those piers out over marsh that is considered very sensitive areas, that huge pier, is over the nesting areas of the whooping cranes, when they are in the area. They can build a huge pier over where most of the remaining whooping cranes on earth nest, but then they want to give you crap over building a pier on your property.
This is all info you should throw at them, if they tell you, that you can't build your pier. If by some chance, they say no problem, then shake their hand and get to work. If by some chance they do say you can build the pier, get the info of the person who said you could and maybe even record the conversation. Because, others within the same branch of government will interpret things differently and be a royal PAITA.

[LuckyCards2006]

Considering it’s powder horn and the WMA and everything else that surrounds it, I think you may be SOL but I’m not positive.

How did you find out about the bird sanctuaries?

Are there signs???


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No signs, I was just told that. They built a bird sanctuary real close to us, you can see it on google earth.


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[LuckyCards2006]

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