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Originally posted by Man View PostThats what i was always told as well. However They are not native to the u.s. and compete with native bees. Google makes it a point to note that white people brought them over.Originally posted by Hooverfb View PostWe actually dont want honey bees.. they're like the hogs of the pollinator world. They hurt natural pollinators.Originally posted by locolobo View PostTrue story. Honey bees are not native to North America. But since they helped displace native bees they have become the main pollinator here.Now they are in danger of being displaced themselves.
I'd be curious to know how many of our "native" bee species hitched a ride over here before we started writing things down in books.
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Originally posted by RiverRat1 View PostLove how the media said in other Countries they kill 50 people each year!!!
I had to shake my head...Let me google how many people die here each year from bee stings.. I bet it's more than 50
between 58 and 62 in the USA.. Less than I thought.
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Originally posted by JonBoy View PostIs there any time frame where a non-indigenous species becomes considered as native? Yes Honeybees were brought to North America but they've been here now for 400 years. All plants and animals were "invasive" at some point, that's the goal of any species...to grow and spread.
I'd be curious to know how many of our "native" bee species hitched a ride over here before we started writing things down in books.
Basically what you are advocating.Last edited by Texans42; 05-04-2020, 12:59 PM.
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Originally posted by Texans42 View PostSo when Domestic and exotic sheep eliminate Bighorn sheep, we should relabel sheep, goats etc native? Or when pheasants(what we are have done) eventually wipeout Lessor Prairie chicken etc.
Basically what you are advocating.Last edited by JonBoy; 05-04-2020, 02:08 PM.
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Originally posted by Bayouboy View PostBees have found a way to kill them. They create a ball of heat by covering the hornet, vibrating, and basically burn the hornet to death since a bee can take more heat.
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Originally posted by Kingfisher789 View PostDon’t forget most of those bee sting deaths gonna be counted as Corona...
Nah, they need to hype this since the Rona didn’t keep us inside enough. Might need the run on toilet paper- a swarm of those might just scare the **** out of you.
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Originally posted by JonBoy View PostAfter they've been here for 400-500 years?...yeah, maybe. I wasn't necessarily advocating for it, rather I was posing a food for thought question. There were a few comments dismissing the honeybee as an invasive species and I was simply highlighting that most, if not all, species establish their "native" habitat by invading it at some point. We've just drawn arbitrary lines in the sand as to what we classify as native.
What did the Europeans bring with them to eat? How many islands and lands did the Europeans dump domestic live stock for further lay over food ? Yes sheep, goats, hogs etc they have been here for a long time.
Europeans bees(honey or wool-carder) in general are an invasion species, but people dismiss it as such due to honey production and ignorance to its relationship to the native flora here in the US. Lazy arse pollinators compared to native.
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Originally posted by Texans42 View Post400 years isn’t much of evolutional time frame, infact it’s a needle point measurement on a mile. The example you are looking for 100000’s of years, where natural flora evolves with the animal/insect etc.
What did the Europeans bring with them to eat? How many islands and lands did the Europeans dump domestic live stock for further lay over food ? Yes sheep, goats, hogs etc they have been here for a long time.
Europeans bees(honey or wool-carder) in general are an invasion species, but people dismiss it as such due to honey production and ignorance to its relationship to the native flora here in the US. Lazy arse pollinators compared to native.
Either way, for the sake of the honey bee, that the murder hornet doesn't land yet another punch to the honey bee's population. Dealing with varroa, neonics has already proven to be more than they can handle.Last edited by JonBoy; 05-04-2020, 04:06 PM.
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