What is up with that?

[Apodz]

Lol you went with 400 yards and under is easy. Calm down Chris Kyle. Not everybody on here can shoot two miles. With all of the factors in different amp, grains, wind age, a bullet changes its trajectory a whole lot at 400 yards and even less if you dont have some what of an idea. Also a big factor is glass. The scope on top of your rifle makes a big difference. Oh and not to mention the gun.

[okrattler]

Lol you went with 400 yards and under is easy. Calm down Chris Kyle. Not everybody on here can shoot two miles. With all of the factors in different amp, grains, wind age, a bullet changes its trajectory a whole lot at 400 yards and even less if you dont have some what of an idea. Also a big factor is glass. The scope on top of your rifle makes a big difference. Oh and not to mention the gun.

400 yards is very doable with most common deer cartridges. That's not considered long range necessarily given the rifles and optics hunters have available to them today.

[Dale Moser]

But everyone has a $2500 sniper rifle with a $1000 scope on it, nowadays...


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[BULL21]

400 yards is very doable with most common deer cartridges. That's not considered long range necessarily given the rifles and optics hunters have available to them today.

I agree with you. 400 yards is easily doable with available equipment. However, I don’t think most should shoot past 150 yards. I think there are several problems with people that you are referring to but the main problem is Not enough trigger time. We have a guy on our lease that brags about shooting the same box of ammo for the last 10 years.

I understand that people get excited and their heart is beating out of their chest, but there are ways to prepare for that. Run in place for a couple of minutes before shooting during practice at the range, quit shooting off bags on a bench, take time to find the right load fo your individual gun, and most important buy quality optics.

[TxBowHntr]

400 yards is very doable with most common deer cartridges. That's not considered long range necessarily given the rifles and optics hunters have available to them today.

I watched a hunting show, I don't remember the name, but they asked 5 or so outfitters what the range most hunters are proficient to hunt. They all said 100 yards at the farthest. I agree that you are right, and the equipment we have will definitely shoot accurately well past 400. But throw in the human element and that drastically is reduced. If you think about it, going to the range and shooting off of sand bags, or rifle sleds is way different than resting on a blind window shaking from buck fever. I do wish more people practiced "real hunting situations" but that is probably not going to happen. And even if they do, a 400 yard shot has a TON of factors (windage, bullet drop for exact distance, etc...) to figure out in the moment to hit the 10 ring.

[GarGuy]

I would encourage every one of you that don't understand to watch elgato video where he killed that 200 inch deer a month ago. He had a Heck of a time ramping down buck fever and that wasn't his first rodeo. He literally had to force himself to breath before he could shoot. I have been in exactly the same shape. I have also witnessed other hunters that could not get that rush under control. It happens folks...

[Graysonhogs]

Well, if you buy quality equipment and have quality ammo, why SHOULD it change from season to season?

"Should" is the operative word. If you have time to go hunting you d*** sure have time to make sure it's still sighted in. That's one less thing to have in the back of your mind while hunting. There are a ton of variables that could cause a gun to be off.

[okrattler]

I watched a hunting show, I don't remember the name, but they asked 5 or so outfitters what the range most hunters are proficient to hunt. They all said 100 yards at the farthest. I agree that you are right, and the equipment we have will definitely shoot accurately well past 400. But throw in the human element and that drastically is reduced. If you think about it, going to the range and shooting off of sand bags, or rifle sleds is way different than resting on a blind window shaking from buck fever. I do wish more people practiced "real hunting situations" but that is probably not going to happen. And even if they do, a 400 yard shot has a TON of factors (windage, bullet drop for exact distance, etc...) to figure out in the moment to hit the 10 ring.

That's true. I practice shooting offhand,sitting with my gun resting on a monopod,shooting to my right or left while sitting and so on and so forth. I understand yardages in certain situations based off of what I know about the land I hunt. For example a center pivot is right around 400 yards. I know where my 22-250 is hitting at 400 yards. If I have a coyote standing or sitting at 400 yards I hold the crosshairs high enough to see sunlight between the horizontal crosshair and the coyote. If I'm not certain that it's that far but close I'll cut the difference in half. I don't know if that makes much sense but that's how I've learned to do it.

Being familiar with your rifle and what it will do out to different yardages is a good thing to keep in mind. But by all means if someone isn't comfortable making shots past 100 yards I don't advocate that they do so.

[Traildust]

Overgunned

[nchunter]

Look around the select baseball thread, watch a soccer game on a Saturday morning at a local park or better yet look at the faces of fellow commuters on your way home. Those are all men with no free time or space to practice shooting.
I bet most hunters get a couple of days if lucky in between work and family obligations to even hunt, let only shoot.
For all the conveniences modern society supposedly conveys, free time is not one of them.
Back in the day most people had weekends and evening to themselves except church on Sunday. Now it’s a 24/7 world .



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[steve corn]

I am one of the guys that get too shook up when I shoot at anything. In my tree stand I have the whole tree shaking enough the leaves fall out. It doesn't matter if its a buck, doe or pig, it jacks me up beyond control.

[BULL21]

Look around the select baseball thread, watch a soccer game on a Saturday morning at a local park or better yet look at the faces of fellow commuters on your way home. Those are all men with no free time or space to practice shooting.
I bet most hunters get a couple of days if lucky in between work and family obligations to even hunt, let only shoot.
For all the conveniences modern society supposedly conveys, free time is not one of them.
Back in the day most people had weekends and evening to themselves except church on Sunday. Now it’s a 24/7 world .



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I agree people are busy, but even busy folks can find a few hours throughout the year to practice shooting I bet those same busy people are fishing, playing golf, etc. when hunting season is over!

[Dale Moser]

I agree people are busy, but even busy folks can find a few hours throughout the year to practice shooting I bet those same busy people are fishing, playing golf, etc. when hunting season is over!

That's what pigs are for!

[BULL21]

That's what pigs are for!

It’s trigger time. Kill em all.

[Jimbo47]

I've got a neighbor I hunt with and it's usually 50/50 when he gets a shot at a deer.
I've checked his gun after he's missed in the past and it's a tack driver.
I mention buck fever to him and he gets agitated with me for even bringing it up, and always has an excuse, like it's the ammunition, or that branch he didn't see, or the sun in his eyes.
He's been hunting for many years, and some people just won't own up to it!