What do you do when you are calling with electronics and a critter hangs up????

[Gary Roberson]

Many times when I am calling, especially with an electronic caller, a coyote or bobcat will come so far and hang up for one reason or another. What do YOU do to get him to finish the deal and respond closer to you, offering an easier shot????
Adios,
Gary

[BLACKFINTURKEY]

Stop calling and use a coax squeaker make some high pitch squeeze works for me most of the time.

[okrattler]

Change sounds or turn the call way down.

[hully1029]

lip squeak

[okrattler]

It depends how far out there they hang up. The last one that did that to me got shot right where she was standing.

[Passthrough]

Change sounds or turn the call way down.

This.....or stop altogether and try to squeak him in

[tex4k]

If I can see it, it not hung up, it's just a longer walk to pick that one up!

[Still Hunter]

Squeaker or woodpecker

[Drycreek3189]

When I was using my 22-250, just put the crosshairs on it and squeezed. Where I hunted, very seldom was a shot over 300 to 350 yards.

[Gary Roberson]

It appears that all of us agree that one should go to a higher pitched sound and most feel that lip squeaking is very effective. Since I have called predators for over 50 years and own Burnham Brothers, I am always asking WHY a certain stimuli is effective?
Here is my opinion, which is just plain common sense. What do you think????
The reason that the coyote or bobcat responds closer when you go to lip squeaking is because for the first time, you are giving the critter a realistic sound. Here is what I mean...When we play all of the electronic callers on the market today on an oscilloscope, an instrument that measures sound frequencies, we find that they peak at 15,000 to 17,000Hz. The human ear can hear frequencies just over 20,000 Hz so some of the sounds on the electronic callers sound pretty good to us.
We know that canines hear frequencies to 45,000 Hz and felines to 64,000 Hz. When I recorded myself lip squeaking and played it, I found that this simple sound went over 50,000 Hz proving my point.
Am I crazy????
Thanks and Adios,
Gary

[okrattler]

I've had coyotes hang up but I feel the #1 reason for that is because they've been called in before and either shot at and missed or they winded someone. A lot of times switching sounds might get them on their feet but they head straight downwind because they already think something isn't right. Other times they'll check up because they see something they don't like although they've maybe never been called in before. I've had other coyotes coming from the opposite direction of a mangey coyote that hung up out there and I didn't know they were there until I shot it. It knew it might get whooped by those other coyotes so it stayed back. Which was fine because that's the coyote I'd have chose to shoot because it had mange out of all 3 coyotes that heard the call. I'd rather knock those out of the population than a coyote wiry good fur. They're not worth anything in the fur market but they'll ruin others.

I play different sounds before I do anything because even a different rabbit in distress sound might make them move closer. I don't crank that sound up as loud as it can go to begin with because in the wild rabbits and birds aren't that loud. If I want that sound to get out there further I'll play certain sounds that I know will travel further. If it's windy I might turn the volume up but if it's not I keep it at the same level. I don't like using a decoy most of the time because I've had those cause a coyote to check up way out there. I make them come look for it and it's usually no further than 45 yards from me. Generally it's only 25 to 30 yards away.

[one66stang]

lip squeak

[Draco]

I use a turkey mouth call to squeal to them. I already have it in my mouth in case it happens.

They don't only hang up with electronics. They will occasionally hold up when using any long range call.

[Playa]

It appears that all of us agree that one should go to a higher pitched sound and most feel that lip squeaking is very effective. Since I have called predators for over 50 years and own Burnham Brothers, I am always asking WHY a certain stimuli is effective?
Here is my opinion, which is just plain common sense. What do you think????
The reason that the coyote or bobcat responds closer when you go to lip squeaking is because for the first time, you are giving the critter a realistic sound. Here is what I mean...When we play all of the electronic callers on the market today on an oscilloscope, an instrument that measures sound frequencies, we find that they peak at 15,000 to 17,000Hz. The human ear can hear frequencies just over 20,000 Hz so some of the sounds on the electronic callers sound pretty good to us.
We know that canines hear frequencies to 45,000 Hz and felines to 64,000 Hz. When I recorded myself lip squeaking and played it, I found that this simple sound went over 50,000 Hz proving my point.
Am I crazy????
Thanks and Adios,
Gary

So the issue isn’t in the recording of sounds, it seems like you proved you can record higher frequency. Is the issue low quality speakers that can’t reproduce the higher frequencies?

[Gary Roberson]

Playa, you are the winner!!!!! What we have found is that most of the sounds that prey animals make go ultrasonic (frequencies that the human ear cannot hear). All sounds MUST be recorded on an ultrasonic recorder and BE PLAYED on a speaker that goes ultrasonic. NONE of the electronic callers on the market today have the ability to go above 20,000 Hz, therefore they are ARTIFICAL sounds to the sophisticated ear of canines and felines.
Example, my recording equipment will record frequencies up to 96,000 Hz which is overkill. The very first baby cottontail we recorded went over 90,000 Hz! For this reason, we are in the process of re-recording as many sounds as we can.
okrattler, you are also correct that some coyotes that have been called hang up and swing wide to the downwind. However, we are finding that even the "call shy" dogs are more aggressive when they hear a TRUE prey recording or coyote vocalization.
Thanks and Adios,
Gary