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    #16
    I have the 3.5 with 25k miles and no problems with the motor. The truck is a beast compairing it to the old 4.6 and 5.4 motors. I average 17mpg mostly city and a lot of idle time, much better than I expected. No towing experience yet.

    I'm not sure why everyone wants to put their trucks to 300k miles. I have a sales rep that had a tundra with 200k miles and she spent $6k in one year on repairs....ac system, suspension, etc... Would have made a good down payment plus the $10k in trade in she got after dealing with the repairs....

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      #17
      You won’t like the power of that Ford compared to the tundra

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        #18
        A 20% improvement in mpg is worth maybe $200 a year. That’s at about 15K miles per year. Nothing compared to monthly payment.


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          #19
          Originally posted by SmTx View Post
          I didn't read anything other than the title. I just wanted to say I saw a half ton 90s model chevy with a cab over camper pulling a double axle horse trailer drive through town today.


          The folks I was with thought I was an idiot for being so impressed.


          Hate to show my age but in the 70s very few people had the big 3/4 ton trucks or 4x4s. Everybody had half tons with goose neck hook ups pulling loads of cows to sale or jeeps to west Texas and Colorado. I look back and think what the heck? Now everybody has to have big ole diesel 4x4s....... some just to drive to the office and back. I know I got off topic but..... I have a 2012 Ram 1500 4x4 , 5.7 Hemi with 140,000 and can easily get 16 mpg unloaded. Pulls anything I want to pull but if it’s heavy like my tractor I have a little trouble stopping. When new, my daughter and I made a trip to Van Horn, averaged 19-21 mpg. Guess over size tires and miles took a toll.


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            #20
            Originally posted by treestand View Post
            A 20% improvement in mpg is worth maybe $200 a year. That’s at about 15K miles per year. Nothing compared to monthly payment.


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            Yup. I made a excel spreadsheet comparing savings between mpgs at different gas prices, miles driven per year, etc. It’s almost impossible to justify buying a new vehicle solely for mpg ratings when accounting for a monthly payment.

            Personally, if you have the new vehicle itch, and can afford the vehicle, then do what you want. My FIL has an 14 Tundra with 200K that has been reliable to this point. He does minimal maintenance on it. On thing he has done in 200K is oil changes, and a brake job.


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              #21
              Originally posted by Radar View Post
              You won’t like the power of that Ford compared to the tundra
              Disagree 100% driven them both. The 3.5 ecoboost is freggin quick and has plenty of power when towing. The power of that engine is the biggest reason I got it.

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                #22
                I had a 14 tundra with 5.7L and i got about 14 mpg.
                I also had a 15 f150 with 3.5ecoboost and averaged about 16.5mpg

                If you figure 15,000 miles per year and gas at $2.50 per gallon that is a difference of $406 per year. If you keep the truck 5 years that's a difference of $2,030. Fuel economy isn't as much of a financial impact as most people think it is.

                And, based on current prices, (i've been shopping for about 2 months) the tundra SR5 is about $3k less than the f150 with ecoboost. And it comes with more standard features (adaptive cruise control being a big one). I ultimately decided to order a new GMC HD, but if I were choosing a half ton it would be an easy decision for the tundra. And, theyre made in TX! Oh yeah, tundra also offering 0% for up to 72 months. The savings in the financing alone would make up the difference in the cost of the fuel economy.

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                  #23
                  What about a Dodge? If I was buying a new halfton a 1500 with the 5.7 Hemi would definitely be getting looked at!!

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by lilbradford View Post

                    Disagree 100% driven them both. The 3.5 ecoboost is freggin quick and has plenty of power when towing. The power of that engine is the biggest reason I got it.
                    Could be. Tundra can pull a lot with a 5.7 v8 and 4:30 rear end. I don’t think a F150 is available with that ratio. I been wrong before.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by outlook8 View Post
                      That doesn’t sound good...anybody else getting crappy mileage towing with a half ton eco boost?
                      Funny u ask. I have a tundra and get about 9-10mpg pulling ranger. So I know you pain. Talked a buddy into a f150 eco. He was pulling a 16 foot flatbed with 1970 Ford bronco yesterday to Utah. Here is his picture he sent me. He has complained saying he only get 12-13 mpg normal driving.

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                        #26
                        Also forgot to mention, my 08 tundra crew max has 240k on it and runs great. just oil changes and brakes. did an flush of the rear and front diff for first time at 220k. cant say enough about how reliable it is. Gas millage does suck. then only thing I would change is my gas tank. it is a 22gallon. so about 300 miles a tank.

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                          #27
                          Count me in here. ‘13 tundra 5.7 with max tow 4.30s on 35s and some towing goodies. Do i average 14 mpg? Yes. Do i average 7-8 towing around 7500lbs back and forth to my ranch? Yes. But with 105k and being paid off, never having an issue and power is nearly endless i won’t be getting rid of it for many years. It’s got just enough tech features to be nice and loaded but still an old school large displacement V8. I swapped for a 46 gallon fuel tank and hands down best upgrade I’ve done. I have too many buddies with 3.5 eco boost and 6.2 GMs who love to brag about getting 17-20 mpg unloaded, but hook a trailer up and it’s a completely different story.


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                            #28
                            Our Expedition with the 10sp and 3.5 averages 19mpgixes driving and 22-23 highway.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Ryanm View Post
                              I have the 3.5 with 25k miles and no problems with the motor. The truck is a beast compairing it to the old 4.6 and 5.4 motors. I average 17mpg mostly city and a lot of idle time, much better than I expected. No towing experience yet.

                              I'm not sure why everyone wants to put their trucks to 300k miles. I have a sales rep that had a tundra with 200k miles and she spent $6k in one year on repairs....ac system, suspension, etc... Would have made a good down payment plus the $10k in trade in she got after dealing with the repairs....


                              Hmmm let’s see, spend $6k in repairs or $50k on a new truck.

                              That’s an easy decision for me.

                              I hate debt.

                              Truthfully major repairs like that are rare in my experience. We have 4 vehicles in my household, 3 of them have over 200k miles 1 has over 100k miles. All we do is maintain them properly, replace the maintenance items as needed and drive them.


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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Radar View Post
                                You won’t like the power of that Ford compared to the tundra


                                That’s a joke, right? A 3.5 eco boost will destroy a tundra in both acceleration and towing power.


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