Rookie LEO runs from gunfight

[billythefish]

You ever been in a gunfight? There is nothing in the world that compares to rounds going past you. The only thing that will desensitize you to getting shot at is getting shot at at not getting shot.

I’ve seen the most macho dudes fold when rounds start flying and the most timid scrawny guys brush it off and thrive...even enjoy it. Bottom line, nobody knows what they’ll do until it happens. A bar fight and and a fire fight aren’t even in the same universe when it comes to a high stress situation.


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I spent 16 years working in hostile environments in the military and contracting. A few things have appeared much worse to me than incoming rounds, such as EFPs and ppieds. Actually after my own training and experience I'd say that I was more than well enough prepared. There is always the outlier but stringent selection is there for a reason with elite units. How many Green Berets/Seals/Delta/SAS/SBS have you encountered on tours who had to get pulled out of a forward location due to being scared of their first contact?

[tvc184]

You ever been in a gunfight? There is nothing in the world that compares to rounds going past you. The only thing that will desensitize you to getting shot at is getting shot at at not getting shot.

I’ve seen the most macho dudes fold when rounds start flying and the most timid scrawny guys brush it off and thrive...even enjoy it. Bottom line, nobody knows what they’ll do until it happens. A bar fight and and a fire fight aren’t even in the same universe when it comes to a high stress situation.


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The first time I was in a shooting, the guy got off one round with an M1 Carbine and then seven more with a .357 magnum. Fortunately that M1 malfunctioned on the first shot (double feed) and he had to resort to his handguns.

It sounded like a hiss followed by a crack when the rounds went past my head. It was like you could reach out and touch where the bullet passed. It was interesting to say the least. I have been in four other shooting incidents since but none down range to hear this hiss cracks. The rest were too close...

I am honestly glad that I have heard it but hopefully that once was enough.

I have remarked to a few combat vets that I have been in a few shooting situations, fired my gun in anger and seen a couple of people shot up close. All of mine combined come to about 120 seconds. What in the heck must it be like to be in a sustained firefight?

Hopefully I will finish out my career without finding out but I agree, my very minuscule experience with shots hissing past makes me believe that it is an outlook changer. My deepest respect for those who have faced it.

[doug]

Until you have been shot at you just don’t know. It’s a very sobering experience.

I do think LEO trainees should spent some time in target pits to experience the sound of bullets going by for no other reason than to just know what they sound like.


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We did something close when i went to the academy 30 something years ago. Very controlled situation but we stood behind the corner of a building while a instructor shot several types of weapons into the range behind us. The rounds passed several feet away as we stood there. Intresting and definately a learning experience!

I'm sure they dont do it now due to safety risks or some kind BS!