Originally posted by Hollywood
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Ya - belittling him and chewing him up sides is really going to help the situation. -
Call him a Richard head and tell him he’s never invited back. Nothing worse than a free loader that takes advantage of a situation knowing that most people won’t make a big deal about it in a public setting or in front of kids.Comment
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First, it sounds like you and the father are not necessarily 'friends' to start with. Your sons are friends. Right? However, I don't think that matters all that much - even if y'all are 'friends', he totally disregarded what you told him and I would never invite him back. Whether of not that impacts the friendship would be a different issue.
Secondly, I agree with some of the previous comments that any of us who invite guests are (to a degree) responsible for what they do if we leave them unsupervised.
Third, I disagree with those who say you should speak to the father and leave the son out of it. It would appear that the father has already set a very poor example of how to act by showing his son how to disregard specific instructions. I would get with both son and father and explain that it was a 'privilege' for them to be invited to hunt at a place where others spent much time, money, and effort to prepare for hunting. They were given specific instructions and disregarded them. They will, therefore, never be invited to hunt with you again. At 12 years old, the son should have known he was disobeying the rules when the father said he could should a buck.Comment
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Man I would've taught him and his son a lesson right here. RESPECT is given and earned at the same time. I would've let him know right there what I thought and had him leave right away.Originally posted by NLuna View Post
IMO you are totally right to send him a bill. Unfortunately your sons will suffer most bc this 'friend' will not pay you but be mad at you for holding him responsible for his actions. I personally wouldn't have someone like that as a friend.Comment
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I would kick him in the taint and then shoot his dog.Comment
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I would have taken their deer and I would have told the dad in front of his son that you blatantly went against what I told you.
Is that a bit harsh? It might be but life is hard and it's even harder when you are stupid.
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agreed - it appears as though this particular guest knew what he was doing was wrong so I wouldn't trust him in the future. If it had been a mistake made because the OP (similar to a couple of situations that I have seen) where the owner/lease mgr told them to "shoot the biggest doe they could find" or "shoot a doe if you see one" type deal and never really stated NOT to shoot a buck or to ONLY shoot a doe and they were uneducated enough on the ethics of hunting and hunting other peoples places that they ended up making a mistake of shooting a buck even though the OP didn't want them to, then he should chalk it up to a lesson learned and make sure his guests have SPECIFIC instructions on what they can/cannot kill. That does not sound like it is what happened here at all so I agree that future trust is ruined. I wouldn't contact him or send him a bill myself. I would just chalk it up to a lesson learned.Originally posted by Traildust View PostComment
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Don't invite them back. 12yr old kid knows right from wrong and should not have shot the buck after you told them does only. Doesn't matter how long the buck was standing there. It was off limits. If they ask if they can come back tell them NO!!! AND tell them why.Comment
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Events like this aren't happening to you; They're happening because of you.
Probably don't want to hear this but you own everything that happened and didn't happen. Life lesson - Move on and stop sharing your feelings through a erroneous bill.Comment
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Originally posted by NLuna View Post
What a POS......
Sorry? Sorry doesn't fix blatant disrespect for your invite and request. Nor me possibly getting in trouble with or embarrassed in front of my landowner! Take that sorry and stick it up your ***!!
**** instant gratification som bitches..Comment
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I'd take a huge dump in his bathroom, and not flush it.Comment
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That’s very disappointing. Obviously they would not be invited back to property. I’ve ran many ranches through the years but absolutely hate the “no guest” policy. That being said, I understand why it in place on many ranches. My members could bring guests, the rule was they were not allowed to take mature bucks. It was stressed to be very careful on who they brought because ultimately any mistake they made would have consequences on the member that brought them. As far as compensation I really don’t think you’re going to get anything out of him if he couldn’t even follow simple rulesComment
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Some folks just figure it's easier to be forgiven than it is to ask permission to do something...in other words they just don't care what you think about it, they're going to do it anyway.
I agree with Doc...those are your options.Option 1-lease member has to sit with the guest
Option 2-no guests
Option 3-allow guests and let them hunt on their own. You will have to be comfortable with the consequences.Comment
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