Seems to me that oxygen levels in the cave would be a concern. I couldn't imagine being stuck in there for 4 days, much less 4 months. Hopefully they can figure something out soon. But I'm glad that they at least found them, and found them alive at that.
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Originally posted by TeamAmerica View Postif they can get them food and rations, they can get them out with scuba. apparently there is a current in some of the water?!
i'm sure they brought them some lights. wonder if they had any batteries left in their lights when they were found. that's enough to make anyone go crazy in the pitch dark.
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I'm always amazed by the amount of people in the world that don't know how to swim. If they were decent swimmers or at least comfortable in the water,
teaching them the necessary SCUBA skills could be done in less than an hour.
They need to be able to:
1) Purge a regulator (as hard as pressing a button)
2) Clear their mask under water (look up and blow out your nose)
3) Breath from an octopus (breathing from a spare air house)
4) Not hold their breath while diving. (just keep breathing)
The rescue divers could help them along the way. In places where it is too tight to fit through, rescue diver's could be on either side with an octopus.
Unfortunately, since they have limited experience in the water, they won't be able to remain calm.
Hopefully they find a way.
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The 4 month guess is if they had to wait out the rainy season. If you would read the articles written, they tell you the concerns.
Scuba is very risky for obvious reasons. 11-13 year old kids.
Digging a chute little more than half a mile is difficult because of the tiny cavern they are in. Its the equivalent of hitting a flea on a dogs back from 30 yards while blindfolded.
Its a tricky situation. Thai military personnel are training the kids to dive in case the water continues to rise. In the meantime, they have plenty of food and supplies to wait if that is what needs to be done.
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Originally posted by systemnt View Postmight be missing something in the story...but.... why not pump out the water?
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Caving diving is a lot harder to learn than open water(lake or ocean), in a cave if you panic there is nowhere to go up to the surface. Since 2 + miles in more than likely 1 scuba tank will not get them out. Average new diver can last less than 30 mins on a tank. Depending on the depth you would have to mix air you breath with more oxygen and have mutil. depression stops that could last mins to hours. You have to be in a good mental place to be able to swim with your body touching the cave walls, of you panic you will get stuck and no way to get help.
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Originally posted by Txhunter11 View PostCaving diving is a lot harder to learn than open water(lake or ocean), in a cave if you panic there is nowhere to go up to the surface. Since 2 + miles in more than likely 1 scuba tank will not get them out. Average new diver can last less than 30 mins on a tank. Depending on the depth you would have to mix air you breath with more oxygen and have mutil. depression stops that could last mins to hours. You have to be in a good mental place to be able to swim with your body touching the cave walls, of you panic you will get stuck and no way to get help.
Seems like a rope could be taken in to help pull them along the open sections and help guide them through the narrower ones. I'm sure they have mucho experts on hand that know more than me though.
I do know people don't give kids enough credit, they are a tough and resilient critter.
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Originally posted by stickbowcoop View PostI thought being an MRI tube touching the sides was bad. I will praying for these folks, that is scary stuff.
45 minutes liked to kill me.
4 months for these kids...
Terrifying.
Prayers sent.
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