Is Integrity a thing of the past?

[cricman]

Well I typed a response to this, it was rude so I deleted it but I just cannot let it go. Cricman, your statement is just plain wrong. You are making an excuse for a person that took the coward's way out. I don't know the guy personally, but to quit a job by text is a cowards way out. If a man gives you a job and you decide to leave, you go shake his hand and look him in the eye, thank him for the work then you tell him that you are moving on. It's pretty simple and keeps doors open down the road.

Please carefully read my post again. So we are clear, I am NOT making an excuse for anybody. My post was not a declarative statement, arguing the merits of the employee's behavior. I am not a fan of exiting a business relationship of any kind without notice, regardless of how uncomfortable the situation might be. I merely gave a different perspective; one that might explain the rational for such an exit. The employee obviously didn't care about the "doors" at that company, at any wage. He made it clear, in a very passive aggressive way, that he didn't like some element of the job.

For the record, I 100% agree with you. Even if he had zero desire to work for the company or even in the same field ever again, it is the polite and considerate thing to do. I fear that the younger "me" generation seems to be increasingly oblivious that that notion.


cricman

[Dale Moser]

Is Integrity a thing of the past?

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I have to show 3 steps of progressive discipline with termination being the last. Owner of the company has to approve the term.



This is in a company of 1400. We don't lose unemployment cases and terms are never a surprise to employees.

My sister is the HR director and VP for a large corporation, and has been for others. She approves of your methods more than she does mine.[emoji16]

I don't think she would do well in my outfit...and she's probably the smartest person I know.


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[Throwin Darts]

Based on many of the responses here, yes.


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I thought the same thing

It doesn't matter if he would be kept on for two weeks or not. When you quit a job you act like a man and go tell you boss face to face. Sending a text is a chicken crap move. Be glad the guy is gone

[DRT]

Would you have given him advanced notice if you were going to fire him?

Most times those folks get advanced notice. Coaching, counseling, written disciplinary actions . . .

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[DRT]

There isn't much company loyalty left anywhere and it seems to work both ways. I worked for a city government and knew my pay was less than I could work for on the outside but also my retirement was going to be better than in the private industry. I had a sense of service to my community and knew I could make a difference for them every day.
However they have changed over the years due to the lack of loyalty from employees. It's just another symptom of a world that is going down the drain.

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[Hooverfb]

There isn't much company loyalty left anywhere and it seems to work both ways. I worked for a city government and knew my pay was less than I could work for on the outside but also my retirement was going to be better than in the private industry. I had a sense of service to my community and knew I could make a difference for them every day.
However they have changed over the years due to the lack of loyalty from employees. It's just another symptom of a world that is going down the drain.

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Yup, it is a bit of a chicken and the egg. Companies change because of folks that hop around, and folks hop around because companies change. Still sucks to lose a guy without any warning though.

[Bowhuntamistad]

You lost me. How is leaving without notice in anyway secure the two weeks of pay he would have recieved? The right thing to do is to brief your employer on where you are with things and say goodbye with a hand shake two weeks or two hours that’s the right way to do it. That’s just me though. I guess I’m out of touch with reality lol!

Because you might fire him when he gives you the two weeks notice when he might have already accounted for the last two weeks of work budget wise. If the new gig isn't expecting him until the end of those two weeks, he will be out of work for a pay period.

Like I said, execution was lacking but I can't blame him not giving notice with how some employers are.

[WTucker]

Y'all ever watch Tattoo the Great on YouTube?
He says 2 week notice my azz I'll give you a 2 day notice. I'm dragging up TODAY.
Such is the construction life.,[emoji16]

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Yea he cracks us up at work.

[sharkhunter]

Because you might fire him when he gives you the two weeks notice when he might have already accounted for the last two weeks of work budget wise. If the new gig isn't expecting him until the end of those two weeks, he will be out of work for a pay period.

Like I said, execution was lacking but I can't blame him not giving notice with how some employers are.

The owner always gives two weeks severance pay to employee that leave in good standing and have been there over a two years. How it should have went down is he gives me his resignation and we shake hands. I thank him for being a good employee but understand. We do a defriefing to catch everybody up on what he’s working on and he can go. We don’t have a two weeks notice rule not sure how that got started on this thread. He can give it if he wishes though. He did our hiring so he should have known. We would have gave him a check for two weeks severance pay. So his leaving like he did cost him 80hrs of free money. I wish him the best though.

[yotethumper]

Today was one of those days. I had a key employee I had hand picked to be my right hand man at our company just walk out with no notice and only a text saying he had a another job that paid better. I can’t express how disappointed I was he left like that. Well tomorrow is a new day! Time for a Crown and Coke !

Hate to hear that. I would love the opportunity to show you that there are young motivated people who still have integrity and a fantastic work ethic. I am a recent college grad currently looking for a job.

[Black Ice]

Nothing anyone does surprises me anymore. I expect a whole lot out of my close friends and immediate family. I expect everyone else will eventually **** the bed and let me down so I don't even have expectations. It's sad, but it's a learned behavior. I've learned that most people suck. However, I'm often surprised by great people doing great things and it makes me feel pretty good that they're still out there.

I work for a multi billion dollar company(probably like a lot of folks on TBH) but I have been there since I was 20 years old. 16 years later I realize that I’m nothing but a small pea in the grand scale of my company but locally we are like family. With that being said I would take my boss to lunch and let him know that I was offered a position that I was interested in before I even accepted.







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[catslayer]

Op

Only if YOU let it be... cant control others

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[Atfulldraw]

we had a guy drag up just like that earlier this year except he didn't even send a text.

I probably knew him better than most did at this job, so everyone was calling me and asked what happened and basically wanted to gossip about it.

Instead of talking about it, I got busy and snatched up his unfinished work (we are on commission) and got paid handsomely for it.

In the end, he's gone, it doesn't really matter when or why or how he left....the work still needs to get done.

If he cared what I thought about it, he probably would have talked to me about it.

[scjeeptx]

I heard an interesting analogy recently at a conference- the speaker had a glass of water, and stuck his index finger in the top of the glass into the water, then pulled it out. The analogy was (when describing modern employee/employer loyalty), "You're the hole that's left." A little drastic, I hope, but it definitely made me think about how each side views the employment agreement.

[lovemylegacy]

The way companies are these days, micro managing, disloyal to employees, especially those that have put in a lot of time, its all about profit to the point where the company will do their best to recover all the money that employees have saved or have in a pension. No I don't think he was disloyal, he was loyal to himself.