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    #16
    Originally posted by panhandlehunter View Post
    With employers these days you never know if they're going to run you off after you give your two weeks. I've always given my two weeks until the last company I worked for burned me. Went to give the boss my two weeks and they took me to the gate that day. I won't ever do it again.
    I can understand that feeling. I worked for a company that was like that. Notice I said “worked”.

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      #17
      Originally posted by Pedernal View Post
      Not sure if his actions pertain to integrity...


      I was just having a conversation about people not being/feeling loyalty towards companies... Seems like it's all about me, me and I...
      Well quite frankly it is. It's just business, and honestly on the flipside it remains the same. Not sure OP did anything wrong, I don't know the whole situation, but gone are the days that companies reward you for loyalty (most of the time). At the end of the day, a business tries to make as much money at the lowest cost. As an employee, you are trying to make as much money ( and stability of that income) for your skills/abilities. Companies pay the market assuming they'll leave a lot of the time. My company has an 80% attrition rate for new hires on the low end, which they replace with senior guys that they pay way more, who proceed to retire in 5 years. Then they complsin no one stays lol. I've been treated fairly as far as their system goes, but fair usually means same or less pay than people with less responsibility lol. If there's no reward for achieving internally, employees will look for reward externally.

      Guy should have atleast quit in person. That's spineless to just "text"
      Last edited by Hooverfb; 04-30-2018, 06:23 PM.

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        #18
        Originally posted by Landrover View Post
        Integrity.........is what we do when NO ONE is watching!!! It is amazing to watch how few individuals actually understand and realize simple things separate us from beasts that is all we have as human beings when their is nothing else.
        Very well explained Oscar!

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          #19
          Originally posted by panhandlehunter View Post
          With employers these days you never know if they're going to run you off after you give your two weeks. I've always given my two weeks until the last company I worked for burned me. Went to give the boss my two weeks and they took me to the gate that day. I won't ever do it again.
          I don't know all the details but when you say gate........was their a security concern based on your role their? Is that the standard for all folks that resign? High turnover industry?
          I guess I would not lower my moral compass because one boss does not have any business etiquette!

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            #20
            Well what kind of job opening do you have? If it's good I can text my boss right now and see you in the morning!

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              #21
              Originally posted by Landrover View Post
              What industry?
              I have never had a position that I walked away from, but I have had very few jobs in my life. I own a service company with 34 employees and this happens on occasion but it is usually not enough to make us look twice. The train continues down the track and we actually tend to get more efficient........i.e, cost of labor reduces as production increases!
              We are an industrial contractor. Im actually looking at it in the same way now.

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                #22
                Originally posted by curtintex View Post
                Nothing anyone does surprises me anymore. I expect a whole lot out of my close friends and immediate family. I expect everyone else will eventually **** the bed and let me down so I don't even have expectations. It's sad, but it's a learned behavior. I've learned that most people suck. However, I'm often surprised by great people doing great things and it makes me feel pretty good that they're still out there.
                How do you deal with people who turn their "2 weeks notice"?

                If it really even exists anymore.

                Do you let them ride it out or have them leave (or let them go the next day) when saying so?

                I was in construction for a few years and the 2 weeks notice was the right way to do it but you knew you were packing up the next day. No matter if you were a prized employee or a slug with one foot out the door already.

                The only time I have ever seen a 2 week notice employee make it the 2 weeks is when they were retiring.

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                  #23
                  Hate to say it, but in todays economy and construction field, there is such a shortage of experienced people companies are raiding whoever they can. People are chasing the dollar more than ever.

                  Is it right? Nope but it is what's happening. Don't worry, he'll leave them too.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Playa View Post
                    Would you have given him advanced notice if you were going to fire him?
                    Very interesting question. Things that make you go, hmmmm...

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Landrover View Post
                      I don't know all the details but when you say gate........was their a security concern based on your role their? Is that the standard for all folks that resign? High turnover industry?
                      I guess I would not lower my moral compass because one boss does not have any business etiquette!
                      No security concern, construction can be that way at times though. I work for BASF now, largest chemical company in the world, and I have no plans to ever leave.

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                        #26
                        Based on many of the responses here, yes.


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                          #27
                          Never had an employee that was worth a darn after they turned in their two week notice. Usually let them leave on their own after a week.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by junkmanhunter View Post
                            Hate to say it, but in todays economy and construction field, there is such a shortage of experienced people companies are raiding whoever they can. People are chasing the dollar more than ever.

                            Is it right? Nope but it is what's happening. Don't worry, he'll leave them too.
                            I guess what gets me the most is I hired him personally and had big plans for him. I’m glad it happened now actually.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by JHT View Post
                              How do you deal with people who turn their "2 weeks notice"?



                              If it really even exists anymore.



                              Do you let them ride it out or have them leave (or let them go the next day) when saying so?



                              I was in construction for a few years and the 2 weeks notice was the right way to do it but you knew you were packing up the next day. No matter if you were a prized employee or a slug with one foot out the door already.



                              The only time I have ever seen a 2 week notice employee make it the 2 weeks is when they were retiring.


                              Almost always allow it, but sometimes regret doing so. Only if there are extenuating circumstances do we not....like if they knew they were fixing to be fired and turned in notice to prevent it. I see the other side of it, seldom does someone that gives two weeks notice actually finish out the two weeks and even less seldom do they do it with a good work ethic. I always appreciate those that do.

                              If someone doesn’t want to work for me, bye. No hard feelings. When someone in a position that requires a transition period does it and it leaves us in a bind, they’re just not rehirable. You be surprised how many see the grass ain’t always greener and circle back only to find out that bridge got burned.

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                                #30
                                Can't say I blame him....

                                On prior threads here, it has been stated folks have been alienated, humiliated, escorted by security as they pack up, kicked out on the spot, etc. That employee didn't know how you would treat him the moment he formally announced his plans. What if gave two weeks notice but you terminated him right then and there? He might need that money those two weeks would have brought in.


                                Execution needed some improvement, but same day protected him in his eyes.


                                One job, I gave four month notice and the next was one month. Very pleasant experiences but knew they wouldn't be anything less than professional and accommodating. Even attended Christmas parties for both of them .

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