Remember Cliven Bundy- Nevada rancher

[Dave]

i NEVER heard that report and thats not what i recall from the video. do you happen to have a link to this info? you guys that dont think this was GROSS government over reach need to read a little history on the entire situation.

That's the way I remember it. It was bad all the way around. Everyone in that situation is to blame in my mind, the the FBI agent who shot first will have a hard night sleep for the rest of this life I would imagine.

[Charles]

That's the way I remember it. It was bad all the way around. Everyone in that situation is to blame in my mind, the the FBI agent who shot him will have a hard night sleep for the rest of this life I would imagine.

Especially since he allegedly lied to cover up the shooting

http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2017/06/fbi_agent_indicted_accused_of.html

[Dave]

I also want to be clear. There were multiple situations that happened very rapidly. The FBI agent shot first at the truck, hitting it once and missing it. Then Lavoy got out of the truck and reached for his pistol and was shot by Sheriff's deputies. The deputies were cleared of any wrong doing as they were acting in accordance with proper procedure. The FBI agent that initiated the shooting was the one who escalated it all and who all of this is falling back on now.

[batmaninja]

“And the reason we haven’t been able to do anything to this point is … the Bundy boys and his pals,” Reid continued. “Because of the fact that the Bundys are in jail, I’m going to reach out to the White House … We’ll see if President Obama will protect this area. He has the authority, as any president does, to stop this sort of destruction and stop it now.”

If I had to pick sides, I am not standing behind this guy.

[adam_p]

i NEVER heard that report and thats not what i recall from the video. do you happen to have a link to this info? you guys that dont think this was GROSS government over reach need to read a little history on the entire situation.

I rewatched the video right before I posted that.

[Dave]

I rewatched the video right before I posted that.

The video doesn't have any sound, does it?

[M16]

Good news! The FBI is the most corrupt law enforcement organization ever. That swamp needs to be drained.

[adam_p]

Was this the guy who leased federal property then stopped paying his lease fee's 20 years ago?

Short answer yes.


Longer answer, the BLM (that is Bureau of Land Management not Black lives matter) came in 20 years ago and said there was an endangered tortoise living on that land that needed to be protected. BLM, then jacked the lease price beyond what Bundy was willing to pay, they goal as I understand it was to push him out and protect the tortoise. He refused to pay and racked up over a million bucks in fees and fines over those 20 years. BLM showed up to catch the cattle and sell them. That is what started the whole deal.

The Bundy sympathizers like to say Harry Ried sicced the BLM on the ranchers so he could get the rights to the water. I don't know if that is true.

[adam_p]

The video doesn't have any sound, does it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=YWLHiU8gYWY

Watch all the way to the end and listen to him when he gets out of the truck after trying to run through a road block.

[Dale Moser]

The BLM has been extorting big ranchers out there for decades over water rights....they need to be de-funded, and many of them sent to prison.

Youtube Have Vs US, or Hage Vs BLM when you have some time to kill.

[batmaninja]

Under BLM permits first been issued in 1954, Bundy grazed his cattle legally and paid his grazing fees on the Bunkerville Allotment until 1993. In 1989, the federal government declared the desert tortoise an endangered species and began negotiating a habitat conservation plan in Clark County, NV to meet the needs of both the tortoise and the people, such as Bundy, who were using the land. This included the elimination of livestock grazing and strict limits on off-road vehicle use in the protected tortoise habitat. In 1993, a permanent conservation plan was put into place that more than doubled the conservation area, and included the Bunkerville Allotment

Yea it was over kind of over a tortoise.

Keep in mind that the Feds already own 84.5% of Nevada. It was about money, and control. And maybe a little about a tortoise.

[wheels]

Hopefully they make a Movie about all this. This Kinda Snizzle is interesting to me!

[ladrones]

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[Humper]

no surprise given who the LEOs and prosecutors were.

Or that the Judge was an Obama appointee